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Feb. 17th, 2014 10:49 pm
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»Made a lot of headway on my fic. FEELS GOOD.

»Thank you to everyone who told me their Tumblr name or who friended me on Tumblr. It feels awesome, except a whole bunch of people friended me and I don't know who they are. WHO ARE YOU? WHO WHO?

»Still appalled by Outlander. However, am interested in the tv show, because Ron D Moore.

»I keep waiting to hear something awful about Moore, or see something awful he's done. I mean the big names that you know--Moffat, JJ Abrams--I just kind of picture them sitting in a room saying, "Okay, but how can we start with something cool and then fuck it up even more?" Even Joss Whedon, whom I really respect a lot, has made some serious mistakes that just make me wince super hard and say, "Ooh, buddy, I know you mean well, but really can you watch where you step?" I haven't seen Moore doing this, but . . . he has to, right? I mean I don't like anyone anymore; that's just how I am now--broken inside.

»Played Apples to Apples as Data. Was very eager to define for Lwaxana Troi and B'elanna and sometimes Jim Kirk all the 20th and 21th references. Had some trouble since the only teenager he knows is Wesley Crusher (he chose "High School Bathrooms" for the category "Neat").

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Date: 2014-02-18 07:58 am (UTC)
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I keep waiting to hear something awful about Moore, or see something awful he's done.

I take it you haven't seen BSG, then?

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Date: 2014-02-19 02:31 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] catpella
I was thinking this comment. IMHO, Moore did the same thing JJ Abrams did with Star Trek: "I like the idea of this property, but I don't actually like the original, so let me completely miss the point of the first series and make what I think should have had happen instead."

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Date: 2014-02-19 02:52 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lizbee
I liked BSG initially, but once it got into the torture, and killing off a vast chunk of its female cast, I just nopetopused right out of there.

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Date: 2014-02-19 03:17 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] catpella
I mean, I will preface this with I _am_ a fan of the original, so I will cop to my biases and admit that I'm not going to be any kind of fairly objective.

Coming from my POV, I don't like when a series that is about something is changed into being something entirely different. So while I respect that there's value to fans of the new BSG in how Moore complicated and changed it, I still feel like changing it into something that's antithesis of the original is problematic. The original BSG made a clear moral stance and chose what themes it engaged with, and Moore disregarded all of those in favor of his vision. Just like how I feel Abrams did the same thing with regards to Trek's vision.

I will concede to not entirely hating Moore's run on Trek. I think that's because since he was a subordinate writer, and Trek was continuing on from the original Trek. So Moore wasn't able to radically change the direction of the universe, just add some shades of darkness here, complicate a situation there. Hypothetically, if Moore had been given the new Trek movies as his sole property, and had done a nuBSG darker take on Trek, I'd have been furious at him about that too.

In other words, I tend to find "radically changing the tones and themes of a property" to be a problematic choice when done by not-the-original-writer, regardless of how anyone feels about whether the change are for the "better" or "worse". Does that explicate a little better? I don't want to come across as hating on Moore just because he broke the thing I like.

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Date: 2014-02-21 11:38 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] catpella
I love a lot of what DS9 discussed, but Section 31 really hurt a lot of what I love and believe in about the franchise, and it always made me feel really icky.

I am deeply suspicious of Abrams getting Star Wars, because on the one hand he admitted he likes the franchise better, and on the other hand, then I would be 3 of 3 with childhood franchises chewed on by newcomers.

And this has been a great discussion to have :)

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Date: 2014-02-18 03:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] flamebyrd
Playing Apples to Apples as a character! What a great idea. (Your Data characterization sounds brilliant and perfect.)

My tumblr username is flamebyrd, as per usual. I don't reblog unless I have something to add though (it's some kind of weird anxiety thing, I think). I will add you soon!

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Date: 2014-02-19 02:42 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] snickfic
I'm still pretty bitter about the ending of BSG, and most of S4, really (minus the team-up-to-go-to-the-base-star episode and the mutiny episodes). I don't think that says anything terrible about him as a person, though. As a showrunner, quite possibly.

Have you seen his show Carnivale? Ex-roommate and I have been quite enjoying it.

Can you say what you're writing, or will that jinx it?

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Date: 2014-02-19 03:27 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] snickfic

I'm going to assume you meant that now you're more interested or something, not more icky. :D

Yay, fic!

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Date: 2014-02-19 05:42 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] snickfic

I would be more inclined to blame stress and/or lack of sleep, personally. When I consistently don't get enough sleep, my language skills go right out the window.

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