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It's Lion Turtles all the way down ([personal profile] lettered) wrote2006-02-18 11:16 am

FIC: Five Ways NFA Probably Didn’t End (Conclusion)

Title: Five Ways NFA Probably Didn’t End
Rating: NC-17, I think.
Warnings: Sex, violence, sex and violence, weirdly kinky in a place or two. Er, and some parts may be sad.
Length: 5 parts, at 2,000+ words each? But you can read it in one sitting, honestly.
Disclaimer: Warren Zevon, I don’t know how it happened. "Dollfull" is a word coined by Thomas Pynchon.
Summary: Ensemble, with focus on Angel, Connor, Spike, Buffy, and Dawn.
A/N: This is another one of those nutty fics from me. So, even though I'm all nervous and stuff, entirely open to constructive criticism. Not sure some of the things works in here.

On that note, thanks to [livejournal.com profile] a2zmom for giving it a couple reads through and the firm nod of "yes." I love you for that. Oh, and for putting up with my indecisiveness. And...other things ;o)


Parts 1-3 are HERE


iv.

One morning, Buffy wakes up to her throat feeling like an exhaust pipe, coughing foul air into her mouth and burning away saliva, her cunt soggy with the fuel of left-over dreams. Her hand’s heel digs deep against her hipbone in deference to a feeling of aversion and perhaps nausea; then she ruthlessly thrusts the heel down the crease between torso and thigh and finds herself, curling her fingers to scrape away the slime there. After several moments of her nails scrambling over damp flesh, thinking dispassionately and for reasons unknown of and man’s hard heels clacking over black and white tile then slipping and tumbling headlong into only black, her fingers are pistoning into herself.

She can’t get there. Her knuckles are raw-rubbing against the sheet’s crosshairs as she trenches against the target of her fingers, over and over again; the flesh she’s scraping is gummy. It’s all very much like killing, sinking her knuckles into the occipital of a skull and after the bone smashes, the quivering mess of blood and what used to be a visual perception system. The matter feels like meat, solid, tight-packed, or pulpy maybe like fruit: rooting in herself for pomegranate seeds, as if she could dredge just that much deeper she’d make it to Hell.

The cool touch brings the little death that gets her there. Oh yeah, she recalls. Hell isn’t hot. It’s the cool, dry place that she’s mossed up and made damp with her womb. It’s a breezy breath in her mouth, a thing-like presence against hers. It’s comfort and death. “Spike.”

The cool touch from the broad hand disappears instantly. “No. Angel.”

“No,” she repeats, as he pushes up and puts his legs over. “Angel.” He stops but doesn’t look at her. His shoulders are hunched over. “I wanted you.”

“Did you love him?”

“Very much. I very much wanted to.”

He lifts his head and stares at the opposite wall. “I wanted to love Cordelia very much.”

Not quite the same thing. She hesitates, begins to play with the hairs on his neck. “Just so we’re clear, I think I did.”

His head tilts back until she’s cupping his skull. His eyes are closed. “I know I did. In a way.”

It will later occur to her that he’s not talking about Cordelia on that one, but not now. Now she uses both her hands to lift one of his, and leans in over one of his shoulders, her hair brushing the bone-blade, to delicately sniff his life-line--it was the hand that had thrust two fingers inside of her. It smells salty and alive. She kneels behind him on the bed, rising up above him, and brings his hand to her breast. “You can’t lose your soul if it’s not for us,” she says.

He tugs down his hand and turns, pressing open mouthed and firm-lipped in that spot between her breasts. So much blood behind that spot, so much life, so much lost and still to be lived. “Yes,” he tells her, and his mouth follows the pointing arrow of her sternum to the dip of her belly, then to part the heavy curtains of her red flesh.

Buffy lies back and lets him. He licks her, laves her labia, carefully searching her. She wonders what he thinks they're looking for. She does not sink her hands into his hair. She stares up at the ceiling of the hotel they had found, where Angel said he'd lived before with his friends. She had looked at him warily at the time. Angel had never said he'd lived before. Is that what they are searching for, she wonders now, life?

She is a tomb; only a dead thing risen from the grave would look for life in her. But no, it was wrong to think of Angel that way; he believed . . . She was a cave, dripping wet in the depths of her, but also mother earth and somehow dark. His gentle, very warm-now tongue finds her clit. She was the womanly night, thrust through by hard male stars. Dawnie used to stare at them through her telescope, looking for life.

Was that how it was?—her baby sister, because she was curious, seeking life? Even seeking the life within herself? It was the thievery of her innocence, but the beginning of her adulthood. Dawn spread her portal and thrust herself into it. It was self-exploration, discovery, experimentation, womanhood. Amazing that Angel's tongue can find that out.

Buffy looks at her hands, spread on the sheets beside her hips, clenching and unclenching. Blood oozes in laggardly thuds down her arms, until there are threads sinuous and sullen dripping down her fingers. Her eyes squench shut, with their tears tangled in lashes leaking out of the corners. She is blossoming under Angel's touch, like a rose; his fingers are firm on her hips to steady her bucking, and Dawn, Dawn fuck; she just misses her sister.

He whispers into her, breath hot and wet with her. “Let go.”

"I can’t."

"You can. Just let go. For me.”

Buffy remembers how tightly wound he was, that first, that only night they made love. That look on his face as he gave himself up to her had been the shock of her absolution; she had given him his forgiveness. “Let me give you my gift,” Dawn had said. Buffy cries out and lets go.

"Knew you could do it,” he says minutes later, and smirks, hands linked over her abdomen, chin resting on the folded wrists.

"Come here,” she says, and lugs him up. She licks his lips, then gets impatient, and thrusts her tongue inside. She loves the taste of herself on him. She wants to swallow it, get down into it—in his throat or inside him. Is this how a man feels, she wonders, wanting to be surrounded, possessing all of it?

"Buffy—?” he asks, when she bites his tongue and he’s pulled away. He hasn’t found that Buffy yet; he hasn’t found the parts of her that like the pain.

Her answer to his question isn’t sex. Instead she flips her hair in that bouncy to-tease-Spike way she’d acquired, and guides his mouth to her bared neck. He lurches away. In his eyes is a betrayed look, an accusation of how could you? With a scowl and a furrowed brow she tugs once on his shirt, thrusting her throat against his mouth. This is how it feels, she confirms; it's wanting to get this pulsing, vulnerable part of yourself encased and swallowed by that dark wet welcoming cavern. This is how a cock gets inside a cunt and a man fucks out his soul.

A struggle ensues. It ends when she feels the mash of his teeth against his lips beneath her knuckles. He licks the trickle of blood trailing down his chin unconsciously. He is hurt and angry and almost indignant, as if he had that right. “If you want to be that way about it, tie me down.”

She blinks. “Angel . . .” Some part of her wants to explain. Some other part of her wants to hit him again.

He is seeing her for the first time. His eyes are growing darker in a strange simulacrum of her own pulse, each moment blacker and closer to death. She knows his cock is throbbing. “Buffy," he breaths, wondering now and excited about it, just thought of it, like a boy. "Do it.” Her mouth opens. “Do it right now.”

She does not tie him down. Instead she brings her manacles, and his eyes are where did you get those? She ignores him and lifts his arms so his hands lock behind the bed post, biting her tongue in concentration as she studies the cuff then snaps it closed. Her whip-tongue fingers lick down the awkward arabesque of his white arms, then coil into fists to rip his shirt open. She tugs off his pants and mounts his narrow hips, her knees on either side a vise. “What do you want?”

Despite her husky voice, she is with that question Buffy his virgin girl, with her loopy, scrawling “Buffy n’ Angel 4ever” handwriting and chubby cheeks. In an awful moment of allusion he thinks of Connor and slowly and deliberately turns his face away from hers.

She understands. Her finger-pads dig deep, like age-wrinkles in his skin, when Buffy turns his head to her. Through little, white clenched teeth, she tells him, “Look at me when I am talking to you.”

He swallows. Her other hand, restive on his throat, suddenly tightens, her thumb working as counterbalance to his jutting Adam’s apple. She presses downward, thumb-printing his throat, until he gags and wonders if this is what cock feels like, if this is what Spike felt like. “Does it hurt?” she ask.

“Yes,” he gasps, around the vomit-feeling. Her hand jerks away in a catching-a-moth motion, hovering over the hollow above his collar bones, claw-like, encasing something-about-to-die. “Yes. God—more.”

She takes her hands away and slips off of him, annulling the cross her body erect on his had made, the way they fit together. She leaves the room and it feels so flat, the weak, watery light through the horizontal blinds, his sloping, planar body on her straight and narrow bed, the only perpendicular his red and jutting cock.

It had all been so straightforward, combing and parting and plaiting the streets for survivors, before he had entered the hotel this morning. And then he'd heard her in her room above him, grunting as if digging through stones, bricks, bones, her fingers scraped and tattered, as if she could just dig far enough—if she could just thrust hard enough—she would find them—Dawn, Giles, Willow, Xander . . . Spike, fallen in the rubble—lost in the desolation of her sex. He had come to her with pity, lay down beside her with a thought to creature comfort. Her hot cunt and sweaty small hand had burned him, branded him, reminded him that they were so much more than pity and comfort, and destroyed it all with a name on her lips that hadn't been his.

She comes back hours later, still naked and holding a knife, just cutlery, like a weapon. She does not stop to admire the eager, teenager way his cock jumps to parallel her, but with simple economy of movement struts forward. Folding herself neatly into an athletic "L" shape standing beside him, she plants the knife straight up and down and draws it down his chest, one two three. One at a time the narrow cuts begin to ream out pretty ribbons of blood. Her nipples, sharp as bird's beaks on her gently swaying breasts, cut up the ribbons and drag upward, to his mouth. They hold there for him until his lips at last obediently drop open and his own blood thips eagerly inside.

The pain of it, her beloved body as the instrument of his torture, is almost enough to let him bear it. The sight of her small, abused breasts are pinpricks to his consciousness; he’s awake, awake, with Buffy, not dreaming, this is not a dream . . . She’s so solemn, so sterile with him and austere that it feels real. She straddles him and tells him, so soft like sweet nothings in his ears, the knife point on his chest, “Maybe you want the other end.” She turns the knife over, fingering the handle. “Maybe you want me to fuck you from behind.”

His eyes contract with lust.

“You should have a scar here,” she goes on, exactly as if she doesn't care. Now she is fingering his unmarred chest. He knows now what she’s finding—not his life but his death, all those things that have been stolen from him—Connor, twice now, first by a friend who should’ve known better, second by a dragon that should’ve been his. And herself—all those chances they never had: Buffy, who is no longer the girl he knew.

“Close your eyes,” she demands, and he does. Then she plunges the knife down.

“Angel,” she whispers, pressing her fingers down against the wound. There are tears in her eyes. “Angel, it was too far; I’m so—”

“Need,” he pants, cutting through her, baring his teeth and looking away. His hips buck up. “Need you.”

“Oh. Well,” she brightens, “could have said so.” And she very carefully, with finality, puts the knife beside them on the table.

In a haze of pain and blood and her thrusting, forceful hips he sees her, pink all over and pretty, head thrown back and taking him, in over and over. “Give it to me,” she’s saying. She’s cut away his Buffy, the girl he remembered. Why, he wants to know, why?

She's taking him so deep; her muscles are clenching so tightly; it's all so unbelievably good. I’m taking this from you because I love you, Connor had said. “Give—give it to me—”

“I love you,” Angel replies, and gives.

Something is aging this City of Angels, exhausting its streets in a tired, run-down way with dust and dandruff, the clean-up crews sweeping through like adolescents finally maturing into mustaches, too old now to be fresh-faced. The children are all growing up, and it isn’t theft after all but merely life, learning the true face of beauty is always like waking from Jasmine’s spell, it’s life; falling out of Eden is knowledge at last, it’s life. Angel and Buffy is not the spell it was; it’s fallen and weak, ugly with truths to raw to bear, a theft of what came before. It’s life, and they will live with it.

Later, cleaned up and unburdened, in his sheets which are cleaner than hers, he tells her about Connor. Inconsequential things, how he smelled, how he fit in Angel’s arms, how he looked when he fought. “His hair was perfect,” Angel concludes. Then they make love.



v.

One morning, LA bursts in tendrils of rosy fingered dawn, and a flash of smoke, and is never quite the same again. As the dawn deepens and the differences settle in LA that first day, choppers slice the air and kick dust up in clouds, swirling it with crumbled asphalt and a lost walkie-talkie somewhere, the same walkie-talkie that hours ago, rolled antennae-over-speaker for a block at least, turned a right, took the feeder to the highway and came to rest at Connor’s feet.

“The hell?” he said, and picked it up. “Um, roger?”

“Xander, we’re trapped. Bloody—pull out. We’re down. Pull out now; get—” Giles crackled into screams and dying sounds on the speakers. Connor shrugged, threw away the talkie, went straight for the doomsday in the sky for a block at least, and caught his breath at the—well shit, all the dead girls, Kennedy and her three dozen. Then he saw the dragon. “Like hell you get all the fun,” he said, and started fighting. Because hey, it was a dragon.

Faith was fighting, too. Connor caught her, pulled her out of the way of the dragon’s fiery breath and took it, the dragon Angel had called for himself, with a mortal blow.

“Fucker killed Angel,” Faith grunted. “Who’re you?”

“Killed Angel?” Connor asked, and the force of his shock left him open to the attack on the right. His abdomen splattered, red his insides, black his glare, not words, that said: where the fuck did that . . .?

“Well if you’d’ve been looking,” Faith said, and went on fighting.

The military is come to clean up Angel’s mess and the ashes the dragon left of him, the clean-up crews to sweep through like adolescents finally maturing into mustaches. Angel was too old now to be so fresh-faced; he should have known better, Riley thinks later. His hand is just touching Sam’s knee, and there is a trace of a smile. They are not the honeymoon they were before; their love is fallen and weak, ugly with truths to raw to bear, a theft of what came before. It’s life, and they will live with it.

In one of the make-shift shelters, Anne is making beds, careful to crease the corners, even though some of them will never be clean again. She heaps the worst bedding in a pile. On a pillow case, she finds a blood stain. Gunn had somehow survived the battle. He had used a cloth to staunch the blood on the stump of his elbow, unaware that his abdomen had finally given in and entrails were beginning to wind their way out of his stomach. Anne scrubs for a long time. She won’t ever get the stain out, but she will wash it, nevertheless. She will dry it. She will fold it. Then she will go make another bed with it, careful to crease the corners, even though some of them will never be clean.

Clem clears his throat, sees Sergeant Finn’s kitten, and raises three. He wonders whatever happened to Spike, just as Angel had when he realized it had been hours since he’d seen him, and that Spike’d been sitting in the driver’s seat racing down those cobbled streets, and that fucking pissed him off. Not that he’d’ve let Spike get behind him, either.

As for that vampire, he had heard his name, spoken once, “Spike,” and felt his heart beat.

“Fuck,” Spike replied, sinking to his knees. “Angel. It was supposed to be Angel.”

“Angel,” the voice said. “Together you were powerful. Alone you are dead.”

Mortal now, Spike whipped around to find the voice, took a blow to the head, and never got up again. This is Angel’s fault. This is Angel’s fault. Angel’s fault. Angel’s fault fault fault. For Justine, every day, the thought is the same: This is Angel’s fault. “Why wasn’t I there?” she wants to know. Strangely, these are Buffy’s thoughts; "why wasn’t I there," she wants to know, "when Dawn decided to spread her portal?"

After a day and a half of little sleep and less rest, Justine’s sight’s gone blurry and she hits Harmony’s hip with the crossbow, not her heart. Harmony, who has returned to feed on the dead and dying—easy prey, and Angel never let her have human—plucks out the dart and advances. Justine, with a force borne of exhaustion, slams Harmony against the wall, jerks open the vampire’s pink floral print skirt, and fucks her hard with her fingers, until there is blood—perhaps because Harmony is nothing like her dead twin sister, nothing like at all.

Blood from Harmony’s hip and cunt oozes in laggardly thuds down Justine’s arms, until there are threads sinuous and sullen dripping down her fingers. At the last moment, Buffy had tried to save Dawn, and got sucked into the portal too. She just could not let go.

She is blossoming with Harmony under her, like a rose; her fingers are firm on her hips to steady her bucking, and Julia, Julia, (Dawn, Dawn) , fuck; they just miss their sisters.

"Mulholland Drive, much?” Harmony asks, when Justine bites her tongue and pulls away. Justine's answer to the question isn’t sex. Instead she flips her hair in a bouncy way she’d never acquired, and guides Harmony to her bared neck with red fingers. Harmony shrugs, thinks, “Take that, Angel. This is for saying I didn’t know what a memo was,” and bites down.

Oz is fucking a monster. Nina came to him a week ago in England, saying Angel sent her. “Werewolves of London.” he’d said. “See, it was werewolf, but now it’s werewolves. Can’t have that. Next we’ll be drinking piña coladas.” So they’d both gone back to LA.

His monster has black hair, blue veins that stand out from her face, and pupils the size of quarters; her eyes are holes like her tugging, tenacious sex and he is falling in—loved a girl once. Loved her innocent greenness, her, the way she always smelled like herbs. There was a seed of darkness in her he never penetrated far enough to touch, but a woman did, a woman did. He never saw the seed, and he never saw the blossom either, never saw the skin of the seed fold out, inside out, fall away so that the thing inside could rise up old and ancient, weeping willow, mother goddess. He tries to fuck that monster and that spirit—the woman she became, the woman he never knew and shouldn’t mourn so much—but there is no white hair black, only blonde. And when he closes his eyes, he sees only red.

Eve is still looking for Lindsey and that Sahrvin lair. He had told her they were like a fairytale, and fairytales ended happily ever after. Even when they didn’t, they didn’t end like this. He couldn’t have been killed by some random demon or a—a falling building or something like that; he was supposed to have last words. It should’ve been epic. Angel was epic. Lindsey should’ve been, too.

“Whoa, epic,” Andrew had said, after Xander had exploded the giant. “Like Ghostbusters, only you can’t eat the guts. Or I don’t think so. Xander, do you think you could eat the—”

Xander was on the ground in a pool of blood. “You should—” he gasped, feeling blood in his throat—how had it gotten in his throat?—“You should tell Willow—”

“Nuh-uh. Have you seen how she looks at the way my skin fits?”

“Shut the fuck up, Andrew. I’m trying to say my last words here and you’re . . .” Xander coughed. “Just tell Buffy and Dawn I love them. And tell Willow . . . I love her crayon-breaky self.”

“Okay, yeah. But on a scale of one to ten, I’m giving that a four. Hal Jordan’s last words were better. Xander!” Andrew shook his shoulders. “Don’t die! You can’t just . . .”

Dazedly, Xander put his hand to his mouth. There was blood coming out of his mouth—how had blood gotten up to his mouth? “Andrew. I am not saying the Green Lantern Oath.”

“But you had to admit it was epic. Come on, Xander. Do you feel cold? They always say they feel the cold. You can’t die like this!”

Andrew was panicking, Xander realized sluggishly. “How’d I end up dying with you?” Xander wanted to know.

“Hey! Snap out of it! Don’t die; please, please, don’t die.”

Andrew was crying now, that idiot, Xander thought. They were in the middle of a battlefield, and Andrew would die crying and alone, somehow wanting to be a hero. Xander rolled his eyes and started the Green Lantern Oath. “In the brightest day, in the darkest night, no evil . . .”

In an LA suburb, Kate Lockley is mourning her newly dead husband and helping refugees from deeper in the city take the buses out. She is using a fire-arm for some measure of solace and control, but she hasn’t fired since she last shot at Angel, years ago. People are turning to her with frightened eyes because they know this eight-grade teacher used to be a cop, and she is letting them. She is crying, but she has a daughter now. Humans are children, too, and Kate has finally gotten over her father’s death.

At the barrier erected on the LA perimeter, the Burkles are trying to get in to find their daughter’s body. They won’t ever have to know their daughter’s body wasn’t their daughter’s. Nor will they know it’d slammed into a brick wall and went through, catapulting back a block at least, leaving blue pieces of Fred all along the way.

Something is changing this world. People are watching the news with horror filled eyes. Others are reading the paper. Others are making donations. Others are calling loved ones and spilling over into tears with relief and that one futile cry: how could this happen? The president is making apologies. Politicians are tumbling off soap box pedestals; a mayor is seeking a reelection out of this. An animal rights activist is saying, What about the kittens? And Sean Penn is flying to San Francisco, where Jesse Jackson will be talking to a church full of refugees. Matt Lauer is hugging a pregnant sixteen-year-old who survived this year’s holocaust (Is apocalypse a better word?) Oprah is preparing a special. Elton John is going to write a song.

Someone has already beat him to it. On radios across the world, an eerie melody is filling the speakers, the home, the city, the satellite, the earth, and the world is mourning. “And I’m giving you this because I love you," the singer says. "I loved this world.” The voice sings in inhumanly multiphonic, the second and third harmonics not buzzes and hums in the throat but crystal clear, and yet indisputably of one origin. It is a song fitting for this tragedy, for the inhumanity of it. Today the eyes of man were opened, and they see that they are naked—against the dark that haunts their thoughts, against the lies they’ve told themselves. Naked and banished into this cursed world of painful toil against the darkness, all of the days of their lives, their land thorned with demons, thistled with rancor. They might fight it . . . endlessly, but nothing they do matters.

“All that matters is what we do,” a green skinned demon thinks as he walks out of the recording studio in Nashville. He has been in the south to visit the family of the man he murdered. “What have I done?” he thinks, and because a bullet to the butt hardly seems dignified, he swallows enough pills to bury him six feet deep in this earth, this paradise, this land of music, not death.

On the Isle of White, Parker Abrams is taking a well earned vacation after his graduation from college, and he is still using that tried and true “my dad just died” docket. He thinks of an LA girl he made love to at U.C. Sunnydale—a tall redhead name Layla, dead now. He wonders if more women will fuck him because of Layla, dead now, or whether he should just say his dad was the one in the City of Angels. He grunts his release into the neck of the woman he is on top of, and wishes she were a little prettier.

In Shanghai, Drusilla smiles, and walks into the sunlight.

In Quor-Toth, the Groosalug is bringing light and peace and justice. It is more beautiful than anything anyone has ever seen—even though no one there has forgotten the face of The Destroyer. Who was much prettier, the story goes. His hair was perfect.

In Hell, Drusilla’s long-forgotten soul awakens and forgives her Makers. Both of them.

In Heaven, many souls do not.
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[identity profile] makd.livejournal.com 2006-02-19 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
Finding it hard to find words. Fucking fantastic pretty much does it.

Will go back and re-read, because: Dude..... it's rich.

thank you. (am humbled.)
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-19 06:43 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you back. I'm humbled by your fb, honestly; I wasn't sure it would work for people. So mutual humbleyness! Thanks again.

[identity profile] aloneinthetown.livejournal.com 2006-02-19 05:57 am (UTC)(link)
Oh man. I love it. The metaphor, word play and word usage is really beautiful. I love how it reads like poetry but is placed like prose. Yeah, I love it. :)
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-19 06:43 am (UTC)(link)
Yay! Thanks. I have a tendency to beat some tropes over the head, so I'm glad it worked for you.

[identity profile] mzzgoddessblue.livejournal.com 2006-02-19 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
That last one...

guh....


no words.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-19 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
Heh. I wrote the last one first, and while I actually don't like it insofar as writing as much of the others, it's still the one that eats away at me. I'm glad it got to you too. Thanks for reading.

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[identity profile] spiralleds.livejournal.com 2006-02-19 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
Wow. Dark and wild and surreal and I'm quite convinced I don't fully get it, but that's okay. Overlapping, but not overlapping. I loved you threaded certain words through out - memos and perfect hair for example. Huh.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-19 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm not sure I get it either. I'm glad you liked it anyway, though! Especially the overlappingness of it--I wasn't sure that would work. Thank you so much for reading and letting me know you liked it.

[identity profile] killabeez.livejournal.com 2006-02-19 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
That... is going to be making me think thinky thoughts for a long time. Thoroughly enjoyed it, thank you!
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-19 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you back! I'm glad I could make you think!

(Anonymous) 2006-02-19 03:11 pm (UTC)(link)
God. This is so rich, I'm kind of numb right now, so forgive the incoherent feedback. I'll be reading this again.

[identity profile] timeofchange.livejournal.com 2006-02-19 03:12 pm (UTC)(link)
That was me, giving the incoherent feedback, and forgetting to log in.

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[identity profile] lostakasha.livejournal.com 2006-02-19 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
This deserves thoughtful and meaningful response -- and I plan on offering that when I can. But for now, thank you.

Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.

Especially -- but not just for -- the Warren.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-19 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
You're welcome just as many times, but...the Warren? I'm not sure what you mean. But thanks for reading and letting me know you liked it.

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[personal profile] lynnenne 2006-02-19 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
This reads like a tapestry. So many threads picked up and woven together: the baby birds, the rosy-fingered dawn, the black and red; I could go on and on, but I can't remember them all. Incredibly rich and thought-provoking.

“I’m giving you this because I love you,” he said, and finally extended the binder to her.

Buffy reached out two days later to pull Angel out of the way of the dragon’s fiery breath


I love this juxtaposition, because in my head I can see a close-up on her hand, dissolving into the fight scene. It's like a film edit; very cinematic.

Not everything about this piece worked for me. I found it a bit too dense in places, and some of the scene-jumps were a little disorienting (perhaps deliberately so). But as always, you take chances with your writing, and they pay off more often than not. The Buffy/Angel scene, I thought, was the most effective in terms of character exploration.

And the last line... killer! Very imaginative work.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-19 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I love this juxtaposition, because in my head I can see a close-up on her hand, dissolving into the fight scene. It's like a film edit; very cinematic.

That's how I saw it, too. Glad it worked for you.

Yeah, I totally agree about it not entirely working, especially about it being too dense in places. I have a lot of trouble with that; imo it's one of my worst faults as a writer. I was going to work a lot longer with this and try to clean some of it up, but I've been working on it a while now and just got tired and frustrated. Maybe some day I'll come back to it with fresher eyes.

As far as the disorienting goes, I totally see that too. I thought it would either work completely or not work for people at all, so it's interesting some of them worked for you and some didn't. Thanks for telling me what you really thought!

And I'm so glad you liked the last line. I thought it was a little much but I couldn't help myself. Thanks again.
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[personal profile] my_daroga 2006-02-19 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I love you. Nothing coherent, not now, so I'll say what I can instead. Um... Love the repetition, doesn't seem repeaty, just right and parallel and gives a rhythm to the prose. Though I also felt it was difficult to get through. Not necessarily a bad thing; just too dense for a speed through, which is why I waited until today. Some of it was disorienting, yes, but a lot of that I considered okay, because there are some things in life/motivation/destiny that aren't to be understood.

Still haven't seen NFA, actually, but bought ATS5 used so I could do so.

Lots of pain and guilt, which I know you know I know you love. There's a crudeness in the survivors that's appropriate and burning.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-19 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! Glad it wasn't too repeaty. If I had worked as hard as I meant to it probably would've been repeaty, because there were a lot more elements I thought could've been echoed, so I'm glad in the end I posted it when I did. I have such a habit of over-working things...when is what made it also dense and difficult to get through. I do think that's a fault, because I myself find dense writing tedious, and it's something I'm trying to overcome in short pieces like this where I want to do something really out there and metaphoric with the writing.

Anyway, excuse my rambling about myself--I'm really really glad you appreciated it. Thanks for reading.

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[identity profile] ignoramouse.livejournal.com 2006-02-19 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Complex, fluid, intelligent prose and absolutely stunning to boot!
It was a wonderful read.
In fact I'll probably re-read this a good few times.

Echoes that aren't perfectly mimetic.
Dreamlike realities.
Dislocated storytelling.
Cinematic via the The Theatre of The Absurd.

Have you been channelling David Lynch? *G*
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-19 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, Mulholland Drive did get a mention! I threw it in there as a kind of joke, because the story itself felt Lynchian to me. But that's actually the only Lynch movie I've seen. Oh, that and Dune.

I'm glad it worked for you. With the dislocated story telling, etc, I was afraid it would be difficult to understand, but I love that it worked for you. Thank you so much.

[identity profile] a2zmom.livejournal.com 2006-02-19 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
told you.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-19 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I know! Thank you for that.

I still wish I'd worked on it a little more. But I've been working on it since October, really, and it was starting to make me not feel well when I thought about it. I don't know why something fun like fanfic can stress me out sometimes, but it does. That's why your encouragement really helped me out. Thanks again.

[identity profile] resmin.livejournal.com 2006-02-20 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Following a rec by [livejournal.com profile] glossing. That was positively amazing. A wonderful tie-in to the whole universe. I enjoyed ever word of this. Thank you.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-20 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks! I think I kinda wanted to do too much with it, connecting it to everything and everybody, so I'm glad the "whole universe" aspect worked for you. I really appreciate you taking the time to tell me so, too. Thanks again.

[identity profile] cesario.livejournal.com 2006-02-20 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
that was...incredible. You know, I don't read much Buffy fic anymore---not since NFA aired, anyway, because I felt like any fic written after the close of the canon that didn't somehow encapsulate the entire canon would disappoint me---and I didn't think there was any chance of finding a story that would do justice to its own heritage. But this is just so dense, so painful and *satisfying* that I feel like it's been worth the wait. So, um...good job. :-)
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-20 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much! I'm glad the dense-ness worked for you. I do think it got almost a little too thick at times, but exactly what you say: I wanted to nod to a whole bunch of things in a (relatively) small space. I'm glad you thought I measured up in some degree! Thanks again.

[identity profile] stultiloquentia.livejournal.com 2006-02-20 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
Bugger, I have absolutely no time to give this the attention it deserves. And I've already completely ignored your two big, rollicking B/A discussions which were right up my alley -- or, rather, whimpered at them piteously and then gone back to work. ARGH!

Briefly:

- I am madly enthusiastic about your Immortal characterization. It's perfect, and now I want a novel about him.
- I love, "The hell? Um, roger," Spike the exhaust pipe, Connor's perfect hair, Xander's death scene, and Lorne.
- I really rather loathe the goopy descriptions of Buffy scrabbling around in her nethers. I'm supposed to, I assume. Blegh.
- I like the power play in #4, but you knew I would.
- I love the opening lines.
- I think that each sentence, on its own, is crafted, intriguing, and full of barbs and codes, but strung together they are -- in certain places -- disharmonious and cluttered. It's always intelligent poetry, but it breaks out of control. I lose sight of the trees for the forest.
- In spite of the above (which is a debatable point anyway), I love what you do, the risks you take. It pays off. There's a ton of extraordinary stuff here.
- The way you weave grim drama with hilarity is virtuosic and very Jossian.
- The whole last page, actually, should be framed. HAH!
- I can't wait to see what you do next.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-20 07:06 am (UTC)(link)
I fangirl your fb. Yours and [livejournal.com profile] germaine_pet's. I thought about sending this fic to you to beta after a2zmom gave me the ok, but I figured you must be uber busy as I hadn't seen you about lj land lately. Plus, I've been working on this fic for 4 months and was getting sick of it, and there comes a point--when it's fanfic--when I realize it's probably just a good idea not to stress over it any longer.

I am madly enthusiastic about your Immortal characterization.

Really! He's in the fic so little, I didn't even know if anyone would think anything about him one way or another. Yet another version of the Immortal is slated to show up in BS; I hope you like that one as much...

I really rather loathe the goopy descriptions of Buffy scrabbling around in her nethers. I'm supposed to, I assume. Blegh.

Well, I've been in that position. Not having everyone I loved in the world be dead or gone, but...well, that literal position. TMI? Anyway, drawing on personal experience too directly can be a bad idea, and I can see where some of the overly-long description about it would be off-putting.

I think that each sentence, on its own, is crafted, intriguing, and full of barbs and codes, but strung together they are -- in certain places -- disharmonious and cluttered. It's always intelligent poetry, but it breaks out of control. I lose sight of the trees for the forest.

I agree. I have trouble in a piece like this not being convoluted. It's there in both of the pieces I did before this--and as you pointed out, in Down There In the Reeperbahn it works perfectly, but in Bodyless Within The Bodies it doesn't so much. It's something I'm really working on and LOVE having pointed out to me so I know I'm doing it. Because I honestly can't tell unless I see it from someone's fresh eyes.

The way you weave grim drama with hilarity is virtuosic and very Jossian.

That's a compliment indeed. Thanks so much.

I can't wait to see what you do next.

Heh! I'm hoping to step very carefully back from the dense convoluted prose and do some smutty A/S. Okay, so I don't think it's in me to write pure smut, but I have this idea that for once isn't dauntingly complex. I feel like I overworked and over stressed this one, and that's not what fanfic is about.

As always, thanks for the always extraordinarily thoughtful fb. It's much appreciated.

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[identity profile] nihilistbear.livejournal.com 2006-02-20 10:25 am (UTC)(link)
such a wonderful load of imagery, and the repetetive patterns are excellently done.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-20 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I was afraid it might be too much repetition, so I'm glad you didn't think so. Thanks for reading and telling me so.
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[personal profile] rahirah 2006-02-20 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. I love the way you're not just playing kaleidescope with with phrases, but with themes and motifs in each iteration: sacrifice, and loss, and attempts at saving what can't or shouldn't be saved. And then the progression from eucatastrophe to catastrophe, and from a fairly linear story to surreality. And that's just on first read. I honestly don't know if I like it or not, but technically, it's a tour de force, and I'm in awe.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-20 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! Interestingly, the theme thing came in on its own when I started trying to use some of the same elements from one piece to the next. I'm glad that worked for you.

And yeah, I totally understand if you don't really like it. There are some things I read that I can appreciate, but I wouldn't go to them for entertainment. I do think the writing in some places here is a little...thick, and I kind of focused on the words and themes and WHAT of the characters rather than the WHO, so I'm not sure it entirely worked. But thanks so much for reading and telling me what you thought of it! Means a lot.

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[identity profile] mutelorelei.livejournal.com 2006-02-20 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
You have some seriously mad writing skizzels. You brought tears to my eyes and made me forget to breathe here and there. I hated some lines and worshipped others.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-20 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! Glad my story could move you. And there are definitely some lines I hate in here ;o) Thanks again.

[identity profile] ancor4eva.livejournal.com 2006-02-20 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Got this link from [personal profile] lostakasha. And I have to say I'm really, really, REALLY glad I decided to give this a try.

1) I tend to read stories that only has Cordy/Angel in them. Or Cordy others.
2) Since it was Annie who gave me the link I decided the story would be worth the read
3) Boy. WAS. I. RIGHT.
4) This story gave me chills like no story ever could
5) The repitition of certain events in each part made me feel like I was going mad. (in a good way)
6)I don't know what the hell it was in the story, (besides the sex part)I was simultanously(sp?)turned on and creeped out by it
7)Dawn's "payback" to Buffy
8)Spike turning human and regreting it
9)the B/A sex part. I NEVER EVER in a million years, thought that I would love reading B/A smut (being a C/A gal an all)..but just the description and simple words had me realize what other people saw in B/A. Just. GUH! *diez*
10) After reading this story, somewhere along the line I fell completely and utterly in love with Buffy (which also like B/A) I NEVER thought was possible.

Oh. And one more thing.


Something is changing this world. People are watching the news with horror filled eyes. Others are reading the paper. Others are making donations. Others are calling loved ones and spilling over into tears with relief and that one futile cry: how could this happen? The president is making apologies. Politicians are tumbling off soap box pedestals; a mayor is seeking a reelection out of this. An animal rights activist is saying, What about the kittens? And Sean Penn is flying to San Francisco, where Jesse Jackson will be talking to a church full of refugees. Matt Lauer is hugging a pregnant sixteen-year-old who survived this year’s holocaust (Is apocalypse a better word?) Oprah is preparing a special. Elton John is going to write a song.
OH. MY. GOD.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-20 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, thank you so much!

5. Glad that worked in a totally insane-making way. Since I was the one writing it, I knew when I was repeating, but to the reader I wanted it to feel strangely echoey and cyclical. I was afraid I might repeat myself too much. Glad it appears I didn't!
6. That? Is one of the cooler pieces of fb I've recieved ;o)

9. I'm glad! I'm a huge B/Aer, but I respect other pairings, you know, and just love it when I read a fic that turns me on to what other people love about other ships. The same thing happened when I first read some of lostakasha's fic...I didn't think I liked C/A but now I totally see the merit and kinda like it, too.
10. Spreading the Buffy love is a worthy goal! She's one of my favorite characters, so I'm glad I can make you like her a little ;o)

about the paragraph you quoted--that was one of the first ones I wrote, and it was when a lot of bad stuff was happening in the world, so I'm glad it struck a cord with you.

Thanks again for your very kind and in depth fb!

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[identity profile] coiledsoul.livejournal.com 2006-02-20 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Every word amazing. I'm completely floored. I've not read fanfiction that made me weep in a very long time. Thanks for this.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-21 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
Oh thank you right back! I'm sorry to make you cry but kinda proud as well. I appreciate you reading and letting me know you enjoyed it.

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[identity profile] macha3.livejournal.com 2006-02-21 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] superplin, posting rec at tatf, sent me. naturally, i like the way you play out all those fractals across the board.{g} the triangles change, the song remains the same.

some parts are... brittle, overreaching, like you can't find the soul inside the shiny sheen of the mad writing skillz. but you know already, i think, when you swing out too far, because i see you reeling it back in again.

writing in the surreal is a difficult and demanding form, and it's wonderful to watch you bring it off, not only with such elan but with such unholy joy (justified) in your wordy rappinghood. very, very interesting writing you're doing, technically extremely good and damned ambitious, and please don't stop those chem experiments on supersymmetry.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-22 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, your fb is spactaculious! Thank you!

some parts are... brittle, overreaching, like you can't find the soul inside the shiny sheen of the mad writing skillz. but you know already, i think, when you swing out too far, because i see you reeling it back in again.

Thanks, but I think you give me more credit than I really deserve. You're totally right about sometimes leaving the soul out due to too much playing with the surface and the words, but I have trouble realizing I'm doing that. I did try to curb myself, but as you say, it doesn't entirely work.

I'm so glad though, that it did work for you, and that you really seemed to see what I was reaching so hard for. I keep trying to do something completely different with everything I write, and it's so wonderful when people can see that an tell me what's good about it even if I miss a little. Thanks again for your awesome fb.

PS What's tatf? I'd like to thank where I'm recced, when it's possible.

[identity profile] anelith.livejournal.com 2006-02-21 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Oomph, I feel as though my mind's been taken through the washing machine, given a thorough spin cycle tumble and briskly shaken. Now it's sparkly and kind of buzzing...

*raps head gently*

I love this. Particularly parts one and five. Which are kind of the reverse images of each other? Light and dark, or happy and sad? You picked one of my favorite songs to weave into this piece, BTW, which just gave me little wiggles of happy throughout. Ringing changes on a repeated line or image is so much fun for the reader (and I imagine for the writer too).

I'm saving this one to read again and again.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-22 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
Hey thanks! Yeah, 1 and 5 are totally mirror images of each other; I was actually kind of trying to arrange everything in a descending order in a way. I'm glad that worked for you.

And I'm so glad you liked the "Werewolves of London"! I couldn't stop singing it when I wrote the first part, and it was so freakin' fun to weave it into the rest. I knew some people wouldn't recognize it at all, but I thought for those who did it'd be fun, too.

Thanks again for your kind fb. I know some of the things I tried I didn't quite measure up to, but I'm so pleased to know it's still working for some people. I appreciate you letting me know!
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[personal profile] luminosity 2006-02-21 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I really enjoyed the rhythms of this. It reminds me of Spinrad's Little Heroes or Child of Fortune. Thank you for posting it.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-22 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks! I've never read either, but I guess that means I have to check them out. I appreciate you reading and letting me know you liked it--and giving me something new to read! ;o)

[identity profile] semby.livejournal.com 2006-02-22 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
WhoawhoawhoawhoaWHOA!

I'm pretty thrown out of wack by this one. Took me a few days to have the time for it, but I'm glad I saved it for when I had an appropriate length of time to absorb. Though it may take a few days more days for me to really absorb it all. It's... wow, really. By the end, it felt like every word was kicking and/or stabbing me in the gut. In a good way, of course - I mean it was powerful. Amazing work, truly. I feel all stuttery. Sorry I'm not more coherent - it's your fault. ;)
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-22 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, incoherence is a compliment! Thanks. I'm glad the end had that effect on you. It had that effect on me back when I was writing it in October, but I wasn't so sure when I pulled it out again and expanded on it it still worked with the piece. I'm so glad it did.

And I appreciate you finding the time to read it! Thanks again!

[identity profile] crazydiamondsue.livejournal.com 2006-02-23 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
I always rec before I fb. It's a curse. That said (and having read your comment about fb making you re-evaluate) no...this works for me. Could be that my brain is a disjointed and not so linear place, but this *was* linear for me.

You've written the only Xander death scene that didn't rip me out of the story, in any case. Green Latern's Oath? I love you.

I loved the tone - and I like experimental. I love this for it's differences, for the unexpected and how the threads all come together. I loved the repeat of "All that matters is what we do." And the last lines? Yeah. Sold it.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-23 05:48 am (UTC)(link)
The fb didn't make me re-evaluate so much as face a truth I really already knew. I've felt this way about my last 3 short fics: I know they're good. I don't care WHO says they're bad, I wouldn't believe them. In fact, I know they're excellent. But all 3 are overly convoluted and focused on wordplay in a way that is at times detrimental to some of what I want to say. It's something I need to work on. But, I'm so glad it worked for you personally, that makes going out on a limb all the more worth it, you know?

I am a very linear writer; I tried very very hard to make this non-linear, but I'm not surprised it ended up rather linear for you (as it does for me, on re-reading).

I'm so glad the Xander death scene worked for you. That was actually a last minute addition. I thought part 5 needed more, and I realized it didn't have any Xander to echo the Xander in the beginning, so I added that in. If I can please a Xander expert on a Xander death scene I'm thrilled beyond the telling of it.

Am also so glad the last lines worked! I first wrote the last section in October, and I cried so hard when I wrote it, but when I went back and re-read it I thought it all seemed a little over-dramatic...but I couldn't bear to part with those last lines.

So glad you liked it, and thanks so much for letting me know, and again for reccing.
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[personal profile] kangeiko 2006-02-23 01:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh. My. God.

That's just... amazing.

*speechless*
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-02-23 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! I appreciate you reading and letting me know you liked it...even though it rendered you speechless. That's a compliment indeed :o)

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