It was needed with Cordelia because...Cordelia wasn't Buffy.
I felt that way too. I mean, circumstances in LA were really dire right then, so I could see that even if it had been Buffy he might not have lost his soul without all the Beast,Connor,&Wesley stuff that had come before hand. But I just do not think Cordy and Angel were at a point in their relationship just then when physical proof of their love would've caused him to lose his soul, and while I respect the ship and all I'm not sure I believe they would've ever gotten to that point.
Also not a big believer in the "Angel didn't know what loss was"
I do think that Angel had a certain measure of naivete and innocence when he met Buffy, but yeah, I agree. I mean, I see what people mean, because he'd never been in romantic love and he'd never had a son, but like you say, he has lost a whole lot, and he certainly knows grief.
But about his character changing on AtS: I totally think he did. AtS to me is all about Angel coming into his own.
Angel didn't have an opportunity to lose himself in the miracle of fatherhood the way he lost himself in the miracle of Buffy's love
You're right about the circumstances of Connor's birth being traumatic, but it seemed like Angel got a bit of a rest after that, in that really crappy dork!Angel section in the middle of S3. Lots of people don't like this part I think, but the part where Angel's making funny faces at Connor, and then vamps out, and Connor smiles...I can't see Angel thinking of anything in that moment but the sheer bliss of being with his child.
But eh, ME says no, so I'll buy your explanation ;o)
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I felt that way too. I mean, circumstances in LA were really dire right then, so I could see that even if it had been Buffy he might not have lost his soul without all the Beast,Connor,&Wesley stuff that had come before hand. But I just do not think Cordy and Angel were at a point in their relationship just then when physical proof of their love would've caused him to lose his soul, and while I respect the ship and all I'm not sure I believe they would've ever gotten to that point.
Also not a big believer in the "Angel didn't know what loss was"
I do think that Angel had a certain measure of naivete and innocence when he met Buffy, but yeah, I agree. I mean, I see what people mean, because he'd never been in romantic love and he'd never had a son, but like you say, he has lost a whole lot, and he certainly knows grief.
But about his character changing on AtS: I totally think he did. AtS to me is all about Angel coming into his own.
Angel didn't have an opportunity to lose himself in the miracle of fatherhood the way he lost himself in the miracle of Buffy's love
You're right about the circumstances of Connor's birth being traumatic, but it seemed like Angel got a bit of a rest after that, in that really crappy dork!Angel section in the middle of S3. Lots of people don't like this part I think, but the part where Angel's making funny faces at Connor, and then vamps out, and Connor smiles...I can't see Angel thinking of anything in that moment but the sheer bliss of being with his child.
But eh, ME says no, so I'll buy your explanation ;o)