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Usually I don't ask questions in public settings. I'm shy and also very arrogant; I like to think I know stuff or can find out on my own. But these things have been bothering me, and while I think a few things might be answered by digging through people's old entries or some FAQs, I'd love some answers (and opinions. Some are about opinions. Not the one about Buffy's natural tufted treasure, though. That has to be fact).

General

What does RPS stand for?
I'm aware OTP means pairing of choice, but what do the letters stand for?
Where did the term 'squee' originate and how come so many people use it?

LJ

What's a meme? Does it mean memory?
How do you tag someone? What does it mean?
What does the term "gak" mean?

Fanon

-How do people feel about using fanon? For instance, some fic writers use the name "O'Connor" for Liam (mostly in all-human AUs, which I don't really read, but whatever). Do you frown upon writers who use this name? Does it throw you off when writers don't use this name? Do you yourself consciously just avoid ever getting anywhere near the characters' surnames just to avoid the issue?
-From where did O'Connor-as-Liam's-surname originate, anyway?
-Does Spike have a commonly used last name? What about Faith? What about Darla, whose first name we know isn't hers, and Drusilla, whose first name is almost certianly not hers?
-This is a much debated topic, but is there even a marginal consensus regarding the age of Spike?
-Buffy smells like vanilla in a lot of fics. What's up with that?
-Does canon make Buffy out to be a natural blonde? I.e., is her altar of love, her carnal trap, her eye that weeps most when best pleased, her bearded clam, her garden of eden, her nest of curls blonde in most fics? What? Just asking.
-Is there a generally accepted explanation for how vampires get it up?
-Is the idea that vampires "pretend" to breath in order to look natural a fanon thing, or was it on the show?
-Does nobody use the fact that Angelus wears eye-liner in fics?
-Is Andrew ever a heterosexual in fics?

General again

-Whatever happened to Miss Kitty Fantastico? Did Dawn really shoot her with a crossbow?
-Do vampires sweat?
-What're some (slang) words for the dominant partner in a D/s relationship? I.e., some for the sub are: bitch, punk, sister (in prison), et al. I've just been drawing blank on their counterparts for about a week, now.
-Does anyone besides me hate Joyce Summers' guts in a visceral, it's-even-alright-to-character-bash sort of way?
-Have you ever not been able to find relatively common words for weeks at a time? (I once spent a month looking for the word 'conceited')
-Am I the only (character) Angel squeeing fangirl who didn't find David Boreanaz convincing as Angel at times? (don't get me wrong; most of the time he was great.)
-Can David Boreanaz sing better than Angel?
-What is the IQ of David Boreanaz? Is it really as low as it seems sometimes?

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What does RPS stand for? Real Person Slash. RPF is Real Person Fic. As in stories written about the celebrities, not the characters they play. It's very accepted in certain fandoms (Lord of the Rings) and not so much in others. Jossverse tends to fall in the middle. I run an archive for RPS in Jossverse- ficbitch.com/glitter.

I'm aware OTP means pairing of choice, but what do the letters stand for? One True Pairing

How do you tag someone? What does it mean? Playing a Role Play Game of any sort, when your turn is over, you 'tag' the next person you want to respond.

What does the term "gak" mean? To borrow or steal.

Fanon
-Is the idea that vampires "pretend" to breath in order to look natural a fanon thing, or was it on the show?Fanon. Joss said "actors have to breathe, damn them." when asked.

-Is Andrew ever a heterosexual in fics? Is he ever heterosexual on the show?

General again

-Does anyone besides me hate Joyce Summers' guts in a visceral, it's-even-alright-to-character-bash sort of way? I'm right there with you, Sparky.

-Am I the only (character) Angel squeeing fangirl who didn't find David Boreanaz convincing as Angel at times? (don't get me wrong; most of the time he was great.) Only when they wrote Angel AS David Boreanaz- as in S3, with Baby!Connor, and any time Angel was a geek. That? Was Dave.

-Can David Boreanaz sing better than Angel? Much.

-What is the IQ of David Boreanaz? Is it really as low as it seems sometimes? In person he's articulate, funny, and fucking hot. TBQ and I have a theory about him playing a happy puppy to sneak in the back door and become a big time director one day while noone's looking, much like that guy from Star Trek. Dave, however, interviews very badly. Mostly because he doesn't know when to shut the fuck up.

How do people feel about using fanon? For instance, some fic writers use the name "O'Connor" for Liam (mostly in all-human AUs, which I don't really read, but whatever). Do you frown upon writers who use this name? Does it throw you off when writers don't use this name? Do you yourself consciously just avoid ever getting anywhere near the characters' surnames just to avoid the issue?

So many thigs seem to be classed as 'fact' but are in fact just 'details' invented by the fans. O'Connor is one of these - it invaraiably makes me wince, and I can't help thinking, "make your own up, for goodness sake…" but it doesn't throw me that much once I've got over the initial ouch.

-From where did O'Connor-as-Liam's-surname originate, anyway?

Fiction

-Buffy smells like vanilla in a lot of fics. What's up with that?

This one drives me nuts, and I've asked this on the forum.

-Does canon make Buffy out to be a natural blonde? I.e., is her altar of love, her carnal trap, her eye that weeps most when best pleased, her bearded clam, her garden of eden, her nest of curls blonde in most fics? What? Just asking.

Excuse me? Um… she's shaved, isn't she?

-Is there a generally accepted explanation for how vampires get it up?

Who cares, as long as it's the size of the Royal barge…

-Is Andrew ever a heterosexual in fics?

Must be one somewhere.

General again

-Do vampires sweat?

Angel does - all over the place.

-What're some (slang) words for the dominant partner in a D/s relationship? I.e., some for the sub are: bitch, punk, sister (in prison), et al. I've just been drawing blank on their counterparts for about a week, now.

Well, particapants in this choose their own, so it can be anything. But common ones are: Sir, Daddy, Master.

-What is the IQ of David Boreanaz? Is it really as low as it seems sometimes?

Well, he's got more money than me, so I'm saying nothing!

Hi...popped over from 12 months... first I'll answer what I can (that hasn't already been answered)... then a question...

Ok...
How do you tag someone... as well as the answer given you can also tag someone on their tag-board ... many websites have them... just a way of keeping in touch.

O'Connor personally makes me cringe... and it comes from Connor's name... REALLY original, hey?! I have used Connor as Angel's father's first name... cause I figured the chances were reasonably high that he would have named his son after his father... but as a last name... *cringe*!!

Why Buffy is often said to smell of vanilla... I have NO idea... obviously someone decided it in a fic once... and others have followed suit.

I have never seen Buffy written as a natural blonde... them their curls are brown! lol.

I think there is a generally accepted consensus (at least among Spuffies)that Spike breathes out of habit... to be different... and also to piss Angel/us off. lol.

Spike was turned in 1880 and is generally written to be between 24 and 26 when he was turned.

I have seen Andrew paired with Dawn... so yeah!

Generally accepted that NO vampires do not sweat.

OK... now on to the question.... I really enjoy your writing... and was wondering if you mind me friending you? Now... if you don't want to have a *gasp* Spuffy on your flist that is perfectly ok... and I won't take offense I can assure you. lol.... ok... have procrastinated as much as I can... off to try and cajole a muse into doing as he is asked... **grumbles about lazy uncooperative muse!**

What's a meme? Does it mean memory?

As far as I know it's just something you post that gets passed around. Like a survey or a quiz and someone says "reply to this then post it on your own journal." And then they do, and their friends do... I don't know if you were hoping for a more specific definition. I do know that I recently found out I've been pronouncing it wrong and that it should be 'MEEM'.

-How do people feel about using fanon? For instance, some fic writers use the name "O'Connor" for Liam (mostly in all-human AUs, which I don't really read, but whatever). Do you frown upon writers who use this name? Does it throw you off when writers don't use this name? Do you yourself consciously just avoid ever getting anywhere near the characters' surnames just to avoid the issue?

O'Connor I can deal with, just so long as it's a fic in which there is no Connor, because Connor O'Connor is just mean. And, yes, I'd normally just avoid the issue.

-From where did O'Connor-as-Liam's-surname originate, anyway?

The same place as Buffy-smells-like vanilla? I think it's the only Irish name a lot of them can think of.

-Does Spike have a commonly used last name? What about Faith? What about Darla, whose first name we know isn't hers, and Drusilla, whose first name is almost certianly not hers?

Out of those, I've only heard that Faith's last name was said to be Lehane by Joss sometime earlier this year... purely because fic writers/rpgers had been pestering him!

-Does canon make Buffy out to be a natural blonde? I.e., is her altar of love, her carnal trap, her eye that weeps most when best pleased, her bearded clam, her garden of eden, her nest of curls blonde in most fics? What? Just asking.

I've normally seen avoidance of the color being mentioned.

-Is there a generally accepted explanation for how vampires get it up?

Ha. That's one I'd like to know. "It's mystical."

-Is the idea that vampires "pretend" to breath in order to look natural a fanon thing, or was it on the show?

Well, we do see vamps breathing on the show, which bugs me to no end because it's usually when they've been running and are out of breath, but no one's around to fake for, so... but I don't seem to remember the fake to look natural thing on the show.

General again

-Whatever happened to Miss Kitty Fantastico? Did Dawn really shoot her with a crossbow?

So I've heard.

-Does anyone besides me hate Joyce Summers' guts in a visceral, it's-even-alright-to-character-bash sort of way?

Aww, no! I love her to bits. Wouldn't trade my mother in for her, but I think she was a good mom in the end, if a little misguided at times.

-Have you ever not been able to find relatively common words for weeks at a time? (I once spent a month looking for the word 'conceited')

Yes!!

-Am I the only (character) Angel squeeing fangirl who didn't find David Boreanaz convincing as Angel at times? (don't get me wrong; most of the time he was great.)

No. There were times.

Hope I was helpful! That's quite a random assortment of questions there.

peasant_ has discussed this more... A Victorian-era mother wouldn't worry so much about her son not marrying if he were still only 25....

-Buffy smells like vanilla in a lot of fics. What's up with that?

In some interview SMG once mentioned she used vanilla one time. People run with it. I'm told there's actually a scene of her in the bathroom, where her bodywash is apple-scented. People just like the vanilla because it's thematic with the blonde hair and the sunshine...

-Does canon make Buffy out to be a natural blonde?

In S2's "Killed By Death" there's a flashback to Buffy-as-little girl, and her hair is brown. In S5's "Weight of the World", in Buffy's mind, the young Buffy is a blonde girl. And when Buffy comes out of the grave in S6, her hair is brown... I think. I operate under the assumption that Buffy's natural hair color is the same light brown as SMG's. I also assume that Willow's natural hair color is also brown, and not red - seeing as Willow doesn't have red hair in S1 or S2.

Most writers, though, leave them as Blonde and Red. People generally don't make their decision to dye or not dye hair plot points - aside from Willow's mother taking months to notice her new S3 hairstyle.

I am ambivalent about Joyce - I don't want to bash either of Buffy's parents too hard, because genetics... I'd like to believe they've had some good qualities to pass on to her.

What is the IQ of David Boreanaz? Is it really as low as it seems sometimes?

He's a hyper goofball, but this just makes him amusing to me. I don't know if it has any bearing on his IQ. It's just jarring to note how completely different he is from the character he was playing.

Fanon

-How do people feel about using fanon? For instance, some fic writers use the name "O'Connor" for Liam (mostly in all-human AUs, which I don't really read, but whatever). Do you frown upon writers who use this name? Does it throw you off when writers don't use this name? Do you yourself consciously just avoid ever getting anywhere near the characters' surnames just to avoid the issue?
-From where did O'Connor-as-Liam's-surname originate, anyway?

Fiction I think. I don't think Liam's surname was ever established. O'Connor strikes me as a "Smith" or "Patel" kind of name - ubiquitous for a certain ethnic group. I use "Riordan" for my Liam/Angel's surname - named for my Methaphysics professor who was found passed out drunk in front of the library one night and had to go on "leave" for the rest of the semester.

-Does Spike have a commonly used last name? What about Faith? What about Darla, whose first name we know isn't hers, and Drusilla, whose first name is almost certianly not hers?

Apparently, the new Spike comic coming out this month has William before he was turned and his surname is... Pratt. I kid you not. Faith's been given the surname "LaHane" apparently. I don't know about Darla or Dru.

-Buffy smells like vanilla in a lot of fics. What's up with that?

I heard that SMG once made a comment in an interview (many years ago), in which she mentioned liking a certain vanilla scent. It made its way into fanon.

-Is there a generally accepted explanation for how vampires get it up?

Mystical mojo? Just like the fact that vamps can be poisoned and drugged and don't reflect in a miror (but can be videotaped). [/disbelief] Whatever it takes to make vampire smut possible works for me.

-Is the idea that vampires "pretend" to breath in order to look natural a fanon thing, or was it on the show?

I'd guess fanon. On the show Angel says he can't revive Buffy because he has no breath. But he manages to speak which requires filling his lungs with air and passing it across his vocal chords. *la-la-la* [/disbelief]

-Is Andrew ever a heterosexual in fics? Only in the distorted reality of TGiQ as far as I can recall, and those women were probably beards.

General again

-Do vampires sweat? Mmmm... sweaty Angel... What? [/disbelief]

-Am I the only (character) Angel squeeing fangirl who didn't find David Boreanaz convincing as Angel at times? (don't get me wrong; most of the time he was great.)

Dork Angel (season 3 of AtS) was an abomination. Angel was totally unconvincing as the regular-Joe-manpire. I think the WB wanted him to be "more accessible" (i.e: dumbed-down) in the belief that it would bring in higher raters among certain demographics, but it had the opposite affect.
-Can David Boreanaz sing better than Angel? Apparently yes.

-What is the IQ of David Boreanaz? Is it really as low as it seems sometimes? I don't think he's stupid at all, but the writers and crew used to call David "Captain Non-sequiter" on the set for his leaps of ... nonsensicality. It's just part of what makes him deliciously quirky.

-From where did O'Connor-as-Liam's-surname originate, anyway?

I personally used it before I saw it in other fanfiction and LONG before Connor, whoever said it was from Connor above. And then I saw it everywhere. Obviously I'm not implying I started it, just I used it before I saw it elsewhere.

-Buffy smells like vanilla in a lot of fics. What's up with that?

Think this has been answered. Interview with SMG.

-Does canon make Buffy out to be a natural blonde? I.e., is her altar of love, her carnal trap, her eye that weeps most when best pleased, her bearded clam, her garden of eden, her nest of curls blonde in most fics? What? Just asking.

Well, I personally write Buffy as a natural blonde, as her younger self was, (although in Killed by Death she wasn't, but oh well.) I realise SMG isn't, but I just keep Buffy as one.

-Does nobody use the fact that Angelus wears eye-liner in fics?

Not seen it.

-Is Andrew ever a heterosexual in fics?

Probably somewhere.

General again

-Whatever happened to Miss Kitty Fantastico? Did Dawn really shoot her with
a crossbow?

Yes, she said it to Xander as she was getting in the car before the stupid taser thing.

-Do vampires sweat?

Up to you.

-Does anyone besides me hate Joyce Summers' guts in a visceral, it's-even-alright-to-character-bash sort of way?

I don't hate her. I dislike her at times, but I think she was trying to do what she thought was right, but just failing.

-Am I the only (character) Angel squeeing fangirl who didn't find David Boreanaz convincing as Angel at times? (don't get me wrong; most of the time he was great.)

I much prefer broody Angel, not the other Angel, but I think most people do.

-Can David Boreanaz sing better than Angel?

Apparently he sings really well, but have never heard.

-What is the IQ of David Boreanaz? Is it really as low as it seems sometimes?

When I met him he was really nice and came across much better than some of his interviews, in which he does seems a twerp.

Where did the term 'squee' originate and how come so many people use it? 

I think it represents that high pitched squeal that 12 year old girls use as a greeting.

-How do people feel about using fanon? For instance, some fic writers use the name "O'Connor" for Liam (mostly in all-human AUs, which I don't really read, but whatever). Do you frown upon writers who use this name? Does it throw you off when writers don't use this name? Do you yourself consciously just avoid ever getting anywhere near the characters' surnames just to avoid the issue?

I hate fanon in general. And I avoid the last name issue. Joss has given his official blessing to Faith Lehane and William (Spike) Pratt.

-Buffy smells like vanilla in a lot of fics. What's up with that?
Out of all the fanon you find in fic, this is my most hated. Well, one of my most hated. SMG once mentioned that she sometimes liked vanilla perfume and the avalanche began. Personally, I would think that a vampire would smell lots of stuff besides her perfume - her soap, lotion, deodorant, her sweat, etc.

-Does canon make Buffy out to be a natural blonde?
Most fic avoids the issue, but I've seen it both ways. I read a very funny fic in which Willow, Anya, Buffy and Spike all run into each other as they're buying hair dye. And I once wrote a drabble on the subject.

Is there a generally accepted explanation for how vampires get it up?
Joss once commented that if they couldn't, the show would have ended after two episodes. How they hell do they walk around and talk? I never sweat the magical stuff. I figure the body chemisrty is completely different. (On a related and gross note, I assume that they don't digest at all. If they eat food, it goes out just the way it came in. No wonder Angel avoids food.)

-Is the idea that vampires "pretend" to breath in order to look natural a fanon thing, or was it on the show?
It was never mentioned on the show but I don't think it's an unreasonable assumption. I think most people would notice if Joe Blow wasn't breathing.

-Does nobody use the fact that Angelus wears eye-liner in fics?
Sadly, he gets over the Maybelline fixation in AtS season 4. And I've never seen it mentioned in a fic. (The thought that Angel is in horrible pain, stumbling out of bed but first applies a little eye product before he leaves cracks me up no end.)

-Is Andrew ever a heterosexual in fics?
There is a fair amount of Dawn/Andrew out there. No, I don't get it either.

-Whatever happened to Miss Kitty Fantastico? Did Dawn really shoot her with a crossbow?
I don't think Dawn would lie about that, so, yup.

-Do vampires sweat?
I'm gonna go with no. Why would they? Angel sweating in Grad. Day seemed like an unusual phenomena.

-Does anyone besides me hate Joyce Summers' guts in a visceral, it's-even-alright-to-character-bash sort of way?
I like Joyce. She was often clueless, she often had a head-in-the-sand attitude, but I never doubted that she loved Buffy and would go to the ends of the earth for her.As opposed to Willow's and Xander's parents.

-Am I the only (character) Angel squeeing fangirl who didn't find David Boreanaz convincing as Angel at times?
I thought the writers didn't write a convincing Angel at times. And DB wasn't much of an actor when he started, but that quickly changed. ("Why you ridin' me." WTF? Has there ever been a more un-Angel utterance?)

-What is the IQ of David Boreanaz? Is it really as low as it seems sometimes?
I think David enjoys messing with people and will say anything that pops into his head. Or, possibly he drops acid.

I run an archive for RPS in Jossverse- ficbitch.com/glitter. Oh! Thanks for letting me know; I'll check it out some time.

Is he ever heterosexual on the show? Not that I know of.

In person he's articulate, funny, and fucking hot. You've seen him in person? Lucky.

Thanks bunches for your answers. And for calling me Sparky; I don't get that much.

This one drives me nuts, and I've asked this on the forum. Really? I didn't see it on the forum. The first time I saw it I thought it was actually rather...nice. Next few times, I thought it was a little unoriginal and over-done. Now it drives me nucking futs.

Excuse me? Um… she's shaved, isn't she? I wouldn't know.

Angel does - all over the place. I've noticed that. I wonder if we're supposed to ignore it, like the breathing?

Well, particapants in this choose their own, so it can be anything. But common ones are: Sir, Daddy, Master. I didn't mean what they call each other, but what other people call them. For instance, if you and I were having a conversation about Andrew and Warren, we could say Andrew is Warren's bitch. But would we say Warren is Andrew's master (and have it specifically refer to a relationship of a sexual nature, not just a "the Emperor is your master" kinda thing)? I've heard people occasionally use the word 'daddy' in this sense, but that's the only one I've been able to think of for a while now.

Thanks for answering some of these questions ;o)

I have seen Andrew paired with Dawn... so yeah! Well paint me pink and call me Susan.

Of course I don't mind you friending me; I'm honored, and glad you enjoy my writing. I actually love Spuffy; B/A is just my OTP (and I can say that know and know what it means. Huzzah!).

*slaps your muse for you*

Connor O'Connor is just mean. What's sad is I know some people with names like that.

Ha. That's one I'd like to know. "It's mystical." I find myself wondering a lot. I think it's because when I write about people getting aroused I write about blood--and I did long before BtVS made me think about blood so freakin' much. Blood is what makes you hot when you're turned on; it's what makes you feel all light-headed and tingly and woozy. It's also, most importantly, what makes you feel uncomfortable. The real question here is did Angel ever feel uncomfortably aroused when he was around Buffy and couldn't have her in S3? I'm sure he did in his head, but I wonder about his body (Okay, admittedly, I wonder about his body a lot). Can he--*gulp*--control it?

Well, we do see vamps breathing on the show, which bugs me to no end because it's usually when they've been running and are out of breath, but no one's around to fake for, so... This particularly peeves me. There were many times on AtS when the footage was edited such that Angel'd be running; there'd be a cut to something else without Angel in it; then there'd be a cut to Angel arriving at his destination. Since the shot in the middle of this sequence so easily allowed for it, they should've allowed DB to dry his sweat and catch his breath to arrive on the scene looking very cool. It would've been disconcerting, sometimes, but it would've drawn you into the reality of the show that much more. And it'd be so easy to do.

Aww, no! I love her to bits. Wouldn't trade my mother in for her, but I think she was a good mom in the end, if a little misguided at times. I gave her chance after chance, and she always disappointed me. Part of it was the actress--the few (very few) affectionate scenes KS had with SMG were really unbelievable to me. Anyway, I understood where the character was coming from, but she always, always seemed to consider herself before Buffy. I watched the show with my parents and they hated her too. I hate character-bashing, but for her and only her (and possibly Glory) I'll make an exception. Okay, sorry. I'm glad you could find it in your heart to love her ;o)

No. There were times. Okay, do you think it was just the Dork!Angel times? A2zmom says she thinks he was a bad actor at first but quickly got better. I agree, but I still thought there were moments all the way up to the end of S1 of AtS where I just didn't believe him.

Hope I was helpful! That's quite a random assortment of questions there. I'm a random person, and yes, that was very helpful ;o) Thanks!

I assume that Faith, being from Boston, is likely a big Boston Red Sox fan... I haven't read this in fanon (yet), but I totally agree. I think Faith is a Red Sox fanatic, actually.

I'm not sure. I think he'd have been in his mid-thirties - perhaps peasant_ has discussed this more... A Victorian-era mother wouldn't worry so much about her son not marrying if he were still only 25.... I've seen a fic or two that makes him 25 at his turning, which didn't make sense to me for the reason you stated.

I also assume that Willow's natural hair color is also brown, and not red - seeing as Willow doesn't have red hair in S1 or S2. Really? She does, imo--though not nearly as red as later seasons. I forgot about the flashback with her as a brunette! Interesting.

I am ambivalent about Joyce - I don't want to bash either of Buffy's parents too hard, because genetics... I'd like to believe they've had some good qualities to pass on to her. Maybe all her good qualities except "sticking around" are from Hank? *is hopeful*

Thanks for answering some of these questions. They really have been bothering me.

named for my Methaphysics professor who was found passed out drunk in front of the library one night and had to go on "leave" for the rest of the semester. Ha! Apt name for Liam, then. Except for the part about metaphysics.

Pratt. I feel that that is wrong, no matter how many people in England have the name Pratt. If his name was really Pratt, those people saying his poetry made him 'William the Bloody' would be playing on the name.

Whatever it takes to make vampire smut possible works for me. Actually, me too.

Only in the distorted reality of TGiQ as far as I can recall, and those women were probably beards. ha! I haven't seen TGiQ yet--I read the transcript, but I can't recall the Andrew bits.

Mmmm... sweaty Angel... What? I'll second the mmm. I got distracted asking that question, too.

the writers and crew used to call David "Captain Non-sequiter" on the set for his leaps of ... nonsensicality. Really! He just...I don't know. A lot of times, he reminds me of the frat-like boys I knew in college. They were very good students who studied hard and could be very serious--but whenever they got to behave the way they preferred I just couldn't stand to be around them. It always seem to involve nakedness and shaving cream. Though I'd make an exception and stand to be around DB if there was nakedness involved, I guess.

I personally used it before I saw it in other fanfiction and LONG before Connor, whoever said it was from Connor above. And then I saw it everywhere. Obviously I'm not implying I started it, just I used it before I saw it elsewhere. Well, maybe you did start it. A lot of the times it's a single fic that starts these things (which was actually what I was asking. I wanted to know which fic it was). I wonder if the name O'Connor being around before Connor somehow influenced the name of the character. I liked that he got named something Irish-sounding.

I don't hate her. I dislike her at times, but I think she was trying to do what she thought was right, but just failing. I understand where she's coming from most of the time, but I so completely disagreed with the actions those motivations produced that she was really the only character on the show that made me cringe (except for maybe the actress who played Glory, along with every line out of her mouth). I tried to give her a lot of chances, but she totally lost me by the beginning of S3. One of my favorite episodes was the one where she laid around the whole time dead.

When I met him he was really nice and came across much better than some of his interviews, in which he does seems a twerp. That's so cool you got to meet him. I don't think I'd like that!

I think it represents that high pitched squeal that 12 year old girls use as a greeting. Gah. My poor ears.

Out of all the fanon you find in fic, this is my most hated. Well, one of my most hated. What are your other most hateds? Because this one takes the cake for me. I actually really really liked it at first, but so many people use it that now I just want to scream "she can smell like other things!" whenever I read it.

Most fic avoids the issue, but I've seen it both ways. I read a very funny fic in which Willow, Anya, Buffy and Spike all run into each other as they're buying hair dye. And I once wrote a drabble on the subject. Oh, happiness. Do you remember the fic, and what's your drabble called?

Joss once commented that if they couldn't, the show would have ended after two episodes. How they hell do they walk around and talk? I never sweat the magical stuff. I figure the body chemisrty is completely different. (On a related and gross note, I assume that they don't digest at all. If they eat food, it goes out just the way it came in. No wonder Angel avoids food.) Yeah, we had a conversation about vampire digestion at the Blood Roses forum. Your version is distinctly more gross. Anyway, I ask about this in particular because whenever I write about arousal I write about what the blood is doing (and I did so long before I ever met BtVS). It's what makes you feel all hot and tingly and uncomfortable whenever you're around someone you're attracted to. Without being able to describe those things, I feel kind of...lost. Of course, the arousal is still there in the mind, but that's just not quite the same.

Sadly, he gets over the Maybelline fixation in AtS season 4. Bummer! (The thought that Angel is in horrible pain, stumbling out of bed but first applies a little eye product before he leaves cracks me up no end.) Me too, which is why I ask. Some funny stuff could be done with it.

There is a fair amount of Dawn/Andrew out there. No, I don't get it either. Yeah, lemme just say 'huh?' to that.

And DB wasn't much of an actor when he started, but that quickly changed. ("Why you ridin' me." WTF? Has there ever been a more un-Angel utterance?) What episode was that in? And no, there hasn't been. Most people answered with the idea that sometimes Angel-as-Angel was unconvincing, but as you say, that's the writers' fault. To me, however, DB was sometimes just a bad actor. You're right, he did get a lot better after S1, but there were still some lines he delivered that I just couldn't be there with him on.

I think David enjoys messing with people and will say anything that pops into his head. Or, possibly he drops acid. lol

thanks for answering my questions! ;o)

Maybe all her good qualities except "sticking around" are from Hank? *is hopeful*

Joyce is clueless, and there are things to not like about her... but for the most part, she did make Buffy feel like she was loved and she made Buffy feel like she could take care of or provide for the non-supernatural aspects of her life decently well. And she could be pretty tough. (Witness Joyce backing Buffy up with Snyder in S3, or standing up to Faith in S4...)
Which is a huge improvement over most of the other Jossverse parents. (Truly, faint praise...)

And Buffy's own fixation with making a perfect Thanksgiving in S4 indicates that she's probably grown up with a mother who could make and run a proper family meal.

Most of these have already been answered, but I just thought I'd throw in my two cents . . .
-Does nobody use the fact that Angelus wears eye-liner in fics?
I know I saw a reference to this once but I can't remember where. It was something along the lines of Buffy wishing that he still wore eyeliner because it was easier that way to remember he was evil.
-Do vampires sweat?
In the original script for "Band Candy", Angel is described as "glistening with perspiration" in the Tai Chi scene.
-Does anyone besides me hate Joyce Summers' guts in a visceral, it's-even-alright-to-character-bash sort of way?
I don't hate her, but I'm not her biggest fan. I think I've seen a couple of Joyce-centric fan sites, and I'm sure there are a few bash sites out there too.

The Fanfiction Glossary is an entertaining resource. It keeps up-to-date via

theglossary.

Most of these questions have been answered, far better than I could probably answer them...and I have been greatly entertained.

DB is smart, I think...and in RL...just about the *most* charming person I have ever met. He does, however, have a fixation on sports. In a "he never shuts up about them" sorta way. Still, the man is TOO pretty for words in RL, so who cares. He talks, I swoon.

I know I saw a reference to this once but I can't remember where. It was something along the lines of Buffy wishing that he still wore eyeliner because it was easier that way to remember he was evil. Really??? Darn, I wish you could remember the fic. I've read several fics wherein Buffy reflects how his eyes look different when he's Angelus. I always want to bop her over the head when I read that. Duh, it's the eye shadow/liner.

In the original script for "Band Candy", Angel is described as "glistening with perspiration" in the Tai Chi scene. Really! 'Zounds. I don't remember him being sweaty in that scene in the show. Guess that means I have to watch it again. And again. And again. And...It's research.

Thanks for weighing in ;o)

Thank you! This has been most helpful! I've been writing fanfic for years (though I'm really new to Jossverse) but for some reason I always feel a little clueless about these sort of things. Maybe because I have a habit of sitting in a corner, not talking to anyone, and writing my head off? Thanks again for this reference.

How is it that so many people have met Mr. Boreanaz? I don't think I could handle it because a) I'm frightened of attractive men, b) he'd be shorter and smaller in RL than I think of him in dreamland, and c) I'm afraid he'd look and sound even more like my brother in RL than he does onscreen, which is just squicky.

What's sad is I know some people with names like that.

Me too, and I always want to yell at their parents. What's the reason for naming a poor child Collin Collins?

but I wonder about his body (Okay, admittedly, I wonder about his body a lot). Can he--*gulp*--control it?

Darn good questions, but I doubt we'll find an answer unless you can somehow get it to Joss, and even then... As a2zmom said below, there is way too much about a vamp's physiology that just makes no sense. Dwelling will only make you crazy.

Okay, do you think it was just the Dork!Angel times? A2zmom says she thinks he was a bad actor at first but quickly got better.

Oh, he was definitely worse at first, and Dork!Angel was pretty bad, but there were random moments even when he'd gotten into a groove of being good where he'd just do a bad delivery of a line or something... I can't even think of examples, but I know there's been some cringeworthy moments.

And you're welcome!

It's true, I almost got in touch with my Joyce-tolerance not only at the moments you mention, but also when she went at Spike with an axe.

However, I always felt it non-sequitur, almost out of character, that Buffy felt loved by her mom. I was glad she did because I wanted her to feel loved by her mother, but I personally saw very little love for Buffy in Joyce. Part of it was the actress, though. There were some moments that I think were supposed to by mother/daughterly, and came off to me stilted. KS and SMG had NO chemistry, imo.

Also, I always felt Buffy's fixation on the dinner in S4 showed signs of a manic mother who stressed out and made everyone's life hell for "events." I come from a long line of women who like to cook and throw fancy parties, and while I think my mom (and my granny) are very good mothers, their preoccupation with having everything perfect for "family get-togethers" has been dreadful for the families involved.

Lastly, I'm probably really biased against Joyce because of how I feel about my own parents. I kind of...idolize my parents, and liked to think they'd never treat me the way Joyce treats Buffy. I'm aware I probably make my parents about to be larger-than-life, so I might be holding Joyce to a standard of perfection that doesn't exist. Still, I watched BtVS with my parents and they hated Joyce as much (or more) than me. (My dad wouldn't stop cheering during "The Body," which was really tasteless and annoying, since that's such a heart-wrenching episode, even if you detest Joyce).

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