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Tori, Sam, and Saul are Cylons.

Starbuck is totally on the radio. And in the ship.

TKMom: Dude, why is Lee such a drama queen?
That said, I actually enjoyed Lee's arc this ep, because I didn't feel like the writers were trying to make me take his side or sympathize. He was just being Lee, and that's fine with me, as long as I don't feel people are asking me to stroke him.

The Saul/Six scene was the shit.

With the Lee/Bill strife and Roslin going all cancerous, it feels like the show was trying to get back to some of its beginnings.

WHERE IS SHARON? WHERE? WHERE?

Who was shipping Roslin/Tori so hard, for a moment there? WHO?

Overall, I'm actually ambivalent about this ep. I still feel that BSG is jerking my chain with the "They have a plan" line, that things won't get resolved, that they are bound to go tits over JJ Abrams from here on out and I will be stuck watching this show even when I really don't want to any more. For the most part nothing happened here, just like nothing's been happening forever (even Starbuck dying didn't feel like anything happening, because most of us guess she's coming back, which means we don't know any more than we did before!) I liked parts and found other parts boring, but I am still cautiously optimistic we may find out something. Anything. And maybe see Sharon?

Was that dream!Hera how big Hera is supposed to be in BSG!reality, 'cause she looked awful big.

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Tori, Sam, and Saul are Cylons.

GAH NO! NOT MY SAMMY!

*ahem*

Am ambivalent as well...ambivalent about most eps ever since the hiatus, had big plans and it's sort of stagnant for me. Starbuck "dying" didn't affect me because well I dunno I get the same feelings as you.

Yeah, exactly.

Poor Sam. If it's true, I mean. Actually, poor Sam anyway.

I find it intriguing that you're the second person to mention that they think it's Starbuck on the radio. How fucking cool would that be? *prays*

This ep had some incredible moments (Roslin/Lee and Lee/Adama) and was great set-up. Definitely going back to its roots in many ways which is awesome. I love this show because I honestly love and hate each character and I have no clue HOW THAT'S POSSIBLE. Having a hard time loving Papadama though, truth be told.

I think it'd be cool if it was Starbuck, too! But I think we're supposed to think it's some Cylon message thing.

I loved the RoslinandLee moment, too. It's weird how these characters have had SO many inter-relationships, it's difficult for the show to keep up with them all. FOr instance, how Lee and Roslin used to be a good team, but we haven't seen that in forever. And now when we see them together it's so sad!

I feel like for the past half dozen eps or so they've been using Bill Adama to say things the writers feel need to be said to create conflict, not things he would necessarily actually say. I mean, I can see him being this angry with Lee, we just haven't been show the part where it's hurting Papadama, too, and I wish we had.

Tori, Sam, and Saul are Cylons.
Starbuck is totally on the radio. And in the ship.
That would be .... I'm not sure if cool is the right word, but it would certainly be interesting and fascinating direction to go in. I'm not sure if I want Tigh to be a cylon unless the show does what I'm thinking it's about to do: pull a mind-fuck on us. Well, at least the show has me engaged again - which some of the previous episodes weren't doing.

Was that dream!Hera how big Hera is supposed to be in BSG!reality, 'cause she looked awful big.
I believe that the BSG!reality Hera is not that big, she's still more toddler size.

And hi!! I'm realizing it's been ages since I commented - stupid work stress is to blame. And hee to your subject line! :D

I think I think it would be cool because I think they want us to think the radio is Cylons and I think that would be kinda...lame.

Even if the show gives us a complete mindfuck, I'm worried about said show being able to pull it off. I mean, they can do this NOTHING IS WHAT YOU THINK shit, but if they can't follow through with it it will just be stupid. *worries*

Hey, honey. How ya been? Sorry about the stress.

At my house we always call BSG Bagelstar. I love bagels!

I didn't think about Starbuck on the radio. I thought the radio was like, the thing calling up the sleepr Cylons or something. Hunh.

I'm with you on the back to the roots being cool, and yet kind of remaining ambivalent. Uhm. Cautiously optimistic, maybe? Cause man, last time an Agathon said there was gonna be a storm, all freaking hell broke loose. And this show does GOOD with all freakin hell breaking loose, man.

WHY WON'T THEY GIVE ME MORE SHARON, J?? WHY WHY WHY. OMG.

I got the impression we were supposed to think it was Cylons on the radio, which makes me think it's not Cylons. But who knows.

I'm just worried. BSG worries me. *frets*

I DON'T KNOW. Why do they put her on the intro credits if we're not even going to catch more than a glimpse of her each ep? Sometimes not even that.

Did Tory hear the music? Tigh and Sam explicitly did, but I'm not sure about Tory. She certainly was acting very weird, though.

For some reason I trust this show a humongous amount, and have faith that it will pull through next week something massive. That said, it would be nice if it were awesome at times other than during season bookends. I've recently concluded that this show shouldn't HAVE mid-season episodes. It doesn't do so well with anything resembling fillers.

That's a good point about Lee. I don't particularly like him, but the show isn't asking me to, so it's not a problem. I hadn't thought of it like that, but it's true. Well played, show.

I still feel that BSG is jerking my chain with the "They have a plan" line, that things won't get resolved
Ha, I refuse to believe this. Optimism optimism optimism wheee

I was certain she did, for a moment when Roslin was addressing the press about her cancer. Might've dreamed it, though.

I don't have faith! I wish I could. But I'm trying to remain optimistic, too!

The thing is, I *liked* most of the filler eps in S1 and 2.

Oh yeah, and about Lee:

I liked him at first. I thought his starry eyed idealism was a pretty cool counter to Roslin's and Papadama's realism. But eventually, the fact that he needed to make such a big show about it, be so selfish about it, make it All About Him, put me off of him. But the thing is, I feel that's realistic, and I appreciate that realism, those flaws. Even if I started disliking him as a person, I appreciate his function as a character.

But as soon as these flaws started really emerging I felt like the show was trying to make me take his side, instead of see him for the self centered (albeit yes, idealist) brat he was being. I dislike that intensely, when a show/book/story is pushing my sympathy for a character/issue/side with which I disagree. I'd prefer the decision be left to myself, thanks. I felt like last week they expected us to see Lee's point and Feel His Manpain. This week, I felt much more like they were just showing us both sides of the situation, which I much prefer. I can actually see Lee's point, and actually even sort of agree with where he's coming from, while still thinking he's being selfish, idiotic, and a bastard. *That* kinda character makes me happy.

I didn't think about that maybe being Starbuck on the radio. Now that would be cool.

I loved this episode but I am very conflicted about this show.Kara's death did nothing for me and it's not because it seems obvious to me that she'll be back. After all, it was even more obvious that Buffy was coming back and I cried and was devasted by her death.

I feel a post coming on about that.

After all, it was even more obvious that Buffy was coming back and I cried and was devasted by her death.

This is true. It was Buffy's sacrifice, and her acceptance of her death, and...yeah. The thing was, the show seemed to be trying to make me feel like Starbuck was making a sacrifice, and at last accepting who she "really was", just like Buffy, accept Buffy had FIVE YEARS of building to that one moment, and with Starbuck I was just kinda like, "what the fuck you talkin' bout, woman?"

I feel a post coming on about that.

Looking forward to it.

I meant, "except" Buffy had FIVE YEARS...
stupid typos

That would be terribly cool if Starbuck was on the radio. Especially if the Adama men can't hear her and the others can.

Of course, because the Adama men aren't CYLONS, omg.

Yeah, I dunno. I really think they're going to bring Starbuck back, but I fear the way in which they will do it.

Right there with you.

Now on to the finale.

Okay, I just had to reply because I love your subject heading. =D

Oh, Bagelstar. I want you with cream cheese.

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