People who don;t love Buffy are not part of my radar.
Heh. Sometimes I want to kick her off my radar, but I can't because I love her too much.
I haven't been reading the acq reviews for a while now partly because his view of the show doesn't have much in common with mine. The Wish is only rated Decent? Does not compute.
Yeah! But a lot of his views of the show tend to be in common with mine, it's just the way we process them that's different. I think a lot of the things he points out as problems with certain eps are very true. I just think that the good stuff outweighs the not so good in most cases, and I also tend to take the not so good stuff with more humor and benefit of the doubt than he does.
ACQ's review of IWRY includes the following comment: It could be called a true hero's sacrifice, or patronizing martyr-complex stuff.
He goes for true hero but imo, what most people fail to see (and this holds for all the characters), is it's both. People are contradictary.
That was my favorite line in his review. And another example of how a lot of his thoughts are spot on, and I just come to different conclusions/opinions about stuff than he does, because I totally agree with you; Angel is both. That's a lot of what AtS is about, imo. And I don't actually think those two things are contradictory. I think that to really be a hero, a really big hero, you have to have a patronizing martyr-complex. You have to think it's me me me, it's only me who can do this, I should get to suffer this pain and I should get to die for everyone's sins because I'm so special, blah blah I'm Christ blah. Or else you're just gonna say, but yeah, shouldn't someone else be doing this? It's why he gives up Buffy and Connor, why he takes on the Senior partners. It's also why he fires everyone in S2 and kills Drogyn.
I've read a lot of people who claim that thsi proves that Angel really doesn't love Buffy since given the chnace he goes back to backing a vampre but they must not have been watching the show I was watching.
I'll say.
But for my money, his real reason is he's lead to belive that if he stays human, Buffy will die sooner. He never thinks to ask whether that's a correct assumption (it obviously isn't) but that's what it stems from.
I agree with all your reasons. I would also add--have I said this before?--he wouldn't give a fuck if the Oracles said, "you can't do anything to prevent her death; she'll die just as soon whether you're human or not". Angel and AtS and Joss Whedon are all about the effort. He needs to try, even if he can't make a difference at all. Which is why it must just utterly break him that he wasn't there to try to save her.
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Heh. Sometimes I want to kick her off my radar, but I can't because I love her too much.
I haven't been reading the acq reviews for a while now partly because his view of the show doesn't have much in common with mine. The Wish is only rated Decent? Does not compute.
Yeah! But a lot of his views of the show tend to be in common with mine, it's just the way we process them that's different. I think a lot of the things he points out as problems with certain eps are very true. I just think that the good stuff outweighs the not so good in most cases, and I also tend to take the not so good stuff with more humor and benefit of the doubt than he does.
ACQ's review of IWRY includes the following comment: It could be called a true hero's sacrifice, or patronizing martyr-complex stuff.
He goes for true hero but imo, what most people fail to see (and this holds for all the characters), is it's both. People are contradictary.
That was my favorite line in his review. And another example of how a lot of his thoughts are spot on, and I just come to different conclusions/opinions about stuff than he does, because I totally agree with you; Angel is both. That's a lot of what AtS is about, imo. And I don't actually think those two things are contradictory. I think that to really be a hero, a really big hero, you have to have a patronizing martyr-complex. You have to think it's me me me, it's only me who can do this, I should get to suffer this pain and I should get to die for everyone's sins because I'm so special, blah blah I'm Christ blah. Or else you're just gonna say, but yeah, shouldn't someone else be doing this? It's why he gives up Buffy and Connor, why he takes on the Senior partners. It's also why he fires everyone in S2 and kills Drogyn.
I've read a lot of people who claim that thsi proves that Angel really doesn't love Buffy since given the chnace he goes back to backing a vampre but they must not have been watching the show I was watching.
I'll say.
But for my money, his real reason is he's lead to belive that if he stays human, Buffy will die sooner. He never thinks to ask whether that's a correct assumption (it obviously isn't) but that's what it stems from.
I agree with all your reasons. I would also add--have I said this before?--he wouldn't give a fuck if the Oracles said, "you can't do anything to prevent her death; she'll die just as soon whether you're human or not". Angel and AtS and Joss Whedon are all about the effort. He needs to try, even if he can't make a difference at all. Which is why it must just utterly break him that he wasn't there to try to save her.