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It's Lion Turtles all the way down ([personal profile] lettered) wrote2006-06-21 01:30 pm

The Fic That Ate My Brain.

B. I use words to get the thoughts out of my head. They just keep coming and coming and don't make sense or feel real--sometimes I don't feel like a real person--until I write it down. So if I've got a story or idea, I need to write it just so it will go away. But that means if I write something down, it will go away, like Dumbledore's memories into a Pensieve. So in general I hate writing outlines/plans for stories/essays, for fear I'll waste the idea of what I want to write in the form of an outline instead of a story, and so never be able to write the story itself. How bout you? Like writing outlines? Thoughts, notes, ideas? Hate it? Why?

R. On another level, I sometimes feel like saying something will make something real, which will of course jinx it and make it unreal. For instance, I don't like to talk about it with my friends if I'm sort of seeing someone, trying to get a job, trying to publish a story. I always want to wait until I've already done it, or until after I've failed, and say, "look, see?" The thing is, it's not about needing to be successful; it's about hating the limbo, but being able to stand it better if I don't admit it's limbo and just wait for the outcome. The point? Is once again that I don't, or usually don't, talk about, or feel the need to talk about, things I'm writing. If I talk about it something unfinished it makes me a little crazy, because I don't know whether I'm going to finish or like the outcome. If I decide to abandon, or hate the outcome, I failed, but I don't mind talking about it then--it's the interim. This is why I have difficulty discussing and bouncing ideas around with friends/betas. I've rarely tried and when I do it makes me intensely uncomfortable. I know lots of people discuss fic they're writing with betas--why do you do it, how does it affect your process, do you ever feel you lose anything in doing it?

A. The point? The real point this time? I'm writing a fic which is EATING MY BRAIN and I want to talk about it because my BRAIN IS GONE. It's 150,000 words and it just keeps growing. I finally did write a bit of an outline for it, but parts that I think are going to be a measly 5,000 words jump to 30,000 words, and it keeps going ON AND ON. I feel like it's mauling me, seriously. (ETA: I feel the need to add I don't actually want to talk about it in an I'm having trouble with it kind of way, but in an I need to complain about it kind of way, which was really the point of this whole post. That is, IT ATE MY BRAIN AND NOW IT'S GONE. That was the point, really.)

I. And I just wrote slash. It was supposed to be a B/A fic! Okay, it still is, but one slash scene turned into 3, and 2 of them are pairings I never saw myself writing, and the other is turning into those 30,000 words. I don't understand. Stop it, fic, you're hurting me.

N. Now we cut the whining and get on to the important stuff. Which would be more entertaining: dubbing Spartacus so that it has dude after dude standing up and saying, "I'm Charlotte Lennox! No, I'm Charlottle Lennox!" or dubbing Spartacus so that it has dude after dude saying, "I'm MsScribe! And I'm Ms Scribe! In fact, we're all Ms Scribe!"? Who's with me on crossing out all the "Who is John Galt"s graffiteed everywhere and writing "Charlottle Lennox" instead? And lastly: tkp, I know who you are.

S. I saw that Keenau Sandra Bullock movie today. God, it was stupid. Someone explain to me why I thought it might be good?
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[identity profile] ravenwings-7.livejournal.com 2006-06-22 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
B. Of the stories that have come solely from my own brain (I did outline some of Heaven and Earth, but as that came from Moss' brain it doesn't count), the one that I made a complete outline for is the one I never wrote (which really sucks, because it would have been cool and fairly original but now it has gone away). That was a few years ago, and I pretty much learned my lesson then. Sometimes I'll do a quick timeline of events after I've started writing (especially if I think that some of the events will be offscreen), or every now and then if a story element doesn't make sense I'll get it out of my brain and onto paper just so I can look at it more objectively.

R. I rarely talk about anything I'm writing in detail, but I do like to tell people that I'm writing something, and the basic premise thereof. This is mostly because having other people know about a project tends to summon a shoulder angel (or devil, whatever) that tells me to open Word and see if I can't tap out at least another sentence or two, even if the plot bunny is hiding under the bed.

A. Holy shit!

I. Slash does tend to sneak up on one, doesn't it? I keep having to fend off Jack/Daniel bunnies in H&E (which is basically gen). Although... Three different slash pairings by accident? May ask whom you are slashing?

N. I don't have anything to say about the HP kerfuffle (which I am avoiding), I just want to be able to spell out "brains."

S. Because Keanu is pretty and (I'm so going to get tarred and feathered for this) a decent actor and you were hoping that this would be Decent-to-Good Movie #6.66? Hmm... if my math is accurate, maybe he isn't going to make another good movie, due to the fear that it will summon the apocalypse. From everything I've heard (I definitely won't see it until it's out on DVD) the Lake House would have been good if Ang Lee & James Schamus had gotten their hands on it, but as it is... Yeah, kind of stupid.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-06-22 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
B. Yeah, I've had that exact experience, of writing a whole outline and then just losing the--the whatever it is, that makes me write.

R. I know what you mean about telling people you're writing, but I usually feel like if I tell the actual premise, it won't happen. But I do say, "I'm writing!" a lot, and it does, for some reason--perhaps to defend my honesty?--make me make sure I keep up writing.

I. Well, the fic is B/A, but a whole bunch of stuff happens with Angel where I guess he has to have sex with everyone in the universe? I don't know. I always knew there was going to be an element of A/S in it, but I thought it would just be this one scene, very short. But then the lead up to that turned out to be Angel/Doyle (look, I really don't know) and then there's Angel/Riley (which really has me WTFi'ing). And Angel/Giles but there's no sex so that probably doesn't even count. It's not very nice slash.

N. From what I can tell, it's not a kerfuffle.

S. I don't find him that pretty and yeah, I think he's a terrible actor. But he was very decent in this, which surprised and impressed me.