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It's Lion Turtles all the way down ([personal profile] lettered) wrote2006-03-06 04:06 am

Let's talk about word emphasis. And sundry.

G. TKP: I shaved my arm-pits.
TKMom: Cool. Let me see.
TKP: Look. (hooks index in t-shirt sleeve to reveal self.)
TKMom: They're so sparkly!
R. Got 4th rejection letter. Am waiting to get rejected to 3 more grad schools. Go me.
A. Writing month! It's a time to discuss how we write, why we write, what we write. DISCUSSION, it squeezes me up out of defjection from rejection (marvel at my rhyme) like a tight hug or one of those stress things, the ones you squeeze and have to keep grabbing hand over fist lest they slip from your hands entirely. It's about being constructive, and possibly positive, and gazing at our navels with shining, dewy eyes and wondering words that tumble from our mazed-parted lips in the form of, "I'm beautiful; I'm really beautiful!"

V. Er, the point of this post...

I've seen people use
bold font
*astrisks*
/slashes/
\backslashes\
-dashes-
_these thingies_
CAPSLOCK
"quotes"
'single quotes'
~are these things called tildas?~
=equals signs--no, really!=
underlined text

and much more in order to:

-emphasize a word or phrase
-signify a thought taking place in a character's head
-denote a flashback
-emphasize a word occuring within a sentence/phrase/whatever that's already italicized because it's a flashback or a thought

Me, I only ever use italics for these things inside a fic (what I do in my posts and comments is a completely different story to me). When I want to emphasize something occuring already inside an italicized phrase, I un-italicize the word I want to emphasize, as demonstrated above. I only use italics for these purposes for several reasons:

-this is the way I see it done in published fiction.
-uniformity, which is somewhat connected to the next to ideas, so I won't go into it that much. In short, the reader doesn't have to guess why I emphasized some words in one way and other words in another way, or try to decipher whether the different ways of emphasis connotate different levels of importance.
-if I need another tool besides italics to convey my meaning, my meaning is probably convoluted, and could stand simplification until I only need italics in order to make my point.
(e.g., in Down There In The Reeperbahn I really wanted the dialogue bits to occur with as little narrative background as possible, and thus I had a problem of signifying who was saying what lines. I ended up using italics to signify Dru's voice. If it was still unclear who was speaking, there was a problem with my concept, my dialogue, and my presentation, and those are things that can't be fixed by resorting to using other "signifiers" to denote other people talking.)
-how they look. Italics are subtle and don't call a lot of attention to themselves. For me, all those other things do. Bold, CAPSLOCK, and underline have a tendency to draw the eye. (When skimming my flist, I almost always read the CAPSLOCKED text, the links, and the cut title first, because the colors and size call attention to themselves. It's lead to me missing important information contained in the regular text.)
Asteriks, slashes, dashes, et al, not only call attention, but add something to the text that is not meant to be read. This bothers me a lot. I feel that everything in most kinds of fiction should be a part of the text. Asterisks used to emphasize a word are not things that we read, but visual clues that the words they enclose are important.

I'd like to note that I am a big fan of making text a visual experience. Poetry, notably through e e cummings and the like, uses the shape of words and the space on the page as part and parcel to the piece itself. Prose is a different thing, but I don't quite believe it when people say this is the difference. Reading is looking at marks on a page, whether prose or poetry, whether the text transports you to a new world or not.

As such, I love prose that experiments/does new things with space and those marks on said page. The first time I saw it done in prose was Toni Morrison's Beloved, in which she eliminated spaces between some words in order to produce confusionurgencypanic. I've seen some fic-authors use that same technique to extraordinary effect. And when it comes to this kind of experimentation, I feel there is no right and wrong. Pynchon uses mathematical equations in the middle of text, and even though I for the most part don't understand it, I fangirl the effort.

But when some fic-authors use *asterisks* merely to emphasize a word, it doesn't appear to me to be trying something new with space or text-shape or anything like that. It appears to me to be just another way to emphasize a word, and in a way I find distracting and detrimental to the look of the text as a whole. Bold or CAPSLOCK could be used very purposely to draw the eye--to trick the reader into reading in a non-linear fashion, which could, if the author is very clever, produce an effect the reader would not otherwise experience. But when some fic-authors use Bold or CAPSLOCK , again, they seem to be doing so only for word-emphasis, and again, in a way I find distracting and detrimental.

That said, there are uses for some of these styles other than word emphasis. Some are:

-underlining book titles.
-boldfacing titles of segments of the text (part one, part two, so on.)
-boldfacing a sign, or business card, etc. Some books seem to want to physically show you the business card or sign. The block of text saying what's on the card is usually indented and formatted to look like a sign. I usually stay away from this use; it falls into the category of "if I can't show this through regular text, there's something wrong with my writing, not my visual presentation." But, I've seen some authors do it, so there, exception to the "way it's done in published books" rule of mine.
-CAPSLOCKING a disembodied or really powerful voice. For instance, JKR probably wore out her capslock button on Book 5. I stay away from this use also, for the same reasons as above.
-"quoted" or 'single-quoted' words obviously have their place in text, but they shouldn't be used as italics are, imo. I'm told there's an episode of "Freinds" and Ross air-quoting "thanks" that could probably explain the difference.


Anyway, I've seen excellent authors I admire use many of these styles, especially boldface, CAPSLOCK, and *astrisks*. No matter who's writing it, it throws me out of the text. But that's me, my opinion, my way of writing, and my way of reading. What're your thoughts on the matter? How do you use these tools, if you use them? What do you think when you see them in text?
Y. "Cheekbones so unreal they must be sparkled with god-dust"...The lovechild of Kiera Knightly and James Marsters could split atoms with his cheekbones.
!. Mmm. Brains.

[identity profile] dejla.livejournal.com 2006-03-08 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Once I've figured out what the author is trying to do with the various formatting, I'm usually fine, unless there are long strings of CAPSLOCK, which I can't read easily. I did find the CAPSLOCK in Book 5 distracting.

I'm easier with the formatting in fanfic, especially when it's plain text. There's no easy way to signify thoughts or emphasis in plain text, that I can see.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-03-09 07:06 am (UTC)(link)
Once I've figured out what the author is trying to do with the various formatting

It's the figuring it out that irks me. I have no problem with being forced to figure it out if there is a reason for it--if the content of the piece itself deals with deciphering, signifiers, oooh! linguistics and deconstruction! etc, either explicitly or through it's themes. But messing around with format for the sake of messing around with format seems...like the person should be doing art instead of writing words that convey meanings.

There's no easy way to signify thoughts or emphasis in plain text, that I can see.

Yeah, I totally copped out and did asterisks whenever I couldn't do html. I hated it then, too, but sometimes getting the word emphasized was more important to me than something so subtle as spaciality in the text, or imitating published works.
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[identity profile] zvi-likes-tv.livejournal.com 2006-03-08 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
With the except of capslock, which, since I process text by hearing it in my head, comes across as someone shouting at me, I'm okay with any of the above conventions in an ascii file or e-mail.

In an html file, I think convention demands <em> for emphasis. I actually think we should switch to <strong>, because that is typically bold for visual screenreaders, and bold is easier to read on most computer screens.

But then, I think anyone who bothers formatting their text for screen reading and then uses a serif font should be shot, so I may be a bit unusual.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-03-09 07:09 am (UTC)(link)
bold is easier to read on most computer screens.

Many have mentioned that! I never really noticed.

I think anyone who bothers formatting their text for screen reading and then uses a serif font should be shot

What does one have to do with the other? Or are you saying that serif fonts are more difficult to read on-screen?
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[identity profile] zvi-likes-tv.livejournal.com 2006-03-09 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Serif fonts are more difficult to read onscreen than san serif.

[identity profile] ancor4eva.livejournal.com 2006-03-09 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
lol Your mom's so adorable. Whcih is where I bet you got you're cuteness from. :D
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-03-09 06:05 am (UTC)(link)
If I could equal the cuteness of my mom...I'd be more cute. Wow, insightful, huh?

[identity profile] ancor4eva.livejournal.com 2006-03-09 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Very. :)

Guess what. *whispers fo my fellow C/Aers won't hear* I had this crazy idea of doing a B/A layout for my LJ. Though I still think C?B look WAY more hot than anything else combined. Guh!

Am I insane or what?
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-03-10 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
omgomgomg!!! Hee! That'd be so cool! I also know a B/Ser who's writing B/A. In fact, I kinda know two.

All your ships with B or A are belong to us! Yis.

[identity profile] ancor4eva.livejournal.com 2006-03-10 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Awwww.

Well I'm kinda not that used to B/A, so it might take a while. Who knows. Maybe my next LJ layout might be a B/A one. ;)

BUT..I loved B/C wayyy before I fell in love with B/A..and I think C/A. There's just something about Buffy and Cordy together that's just...*diez* All that anger and hatred..you KNOW they wanted each other. *grins* And did I mention the eye fucking. MmmMmm.

Ok. Picture this. A Sexy, SEXY picture of Cordy/Buffy in this naughty position with Angel at the side looking on. And then on the side it says, Angel Who?

*giggles madly* *ahem* :D
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-03-11 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
Ok. Picture this. A Sexy, SEXY picture of Cordy/Buffy in this naughty position with Angel at the side looking on. And then on the side it says, Angel Who?

Oh! Dude! Awesome! You know what makes me sad, I've never actually considered a A/B/C threesome. I mean, so obviously hot. And so...alphabetized.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-03-11 07:41 am (UTC)(link)
Not, of course, that that particular lay-out is quite a threesome, with Angel just voyeuring and all. But it does give one thoughts.

Smutty porny dirty!bad!wrong thoughts.

Oh god I love life.

[identity profile] ancor4eva.livejournal.com 2006-03-09 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Got 4th rejection letter. Am waiting to get rejected to 3 more grad schools. Go me.
Awww. Don't say that hun. You'll get accepted by the next three. I know it. *huggles* :D
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-03-09 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
Heh. Thanks for the vote of confidence. I did get rejected to every school I applied to last year, though, and so far the outlook is not shiny. But...I'll find something else impressive to do with myself, I just know it! :o)

[identity profile] leni-ba.livejournal.com 2006-03-20 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Aren't the equal signs like, for übecute? =^_^=

Last year cornerofmadness held a WIP ficathon. I had the chance to go over one of my old fics and re-read it and... *cringes* Hello, was I having an affair with the Caps Lock and I didn't know it? Caps here, Caps there and, the horror, *asterisks*.

Now, I do a lot asterisks lately in LJ because as I've told you, these keyboads are a pain with < and > but i fic I find them jarring.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-03-21 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
How does a WIP ficathon work? Do you all just start posting on the same day, or do you all post each chapter on given dates? Sounds interesting.

I find capslock really disorienting in fic. In posts it can be sometimes funny, but as you say, that's a whole 'nother thing!

[identity profile] leni-ba.livejournal.com 2006-03-21 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah. In this case a WIP ficathon was all about taking our old WIPs and updating them.

*pets High Mountains* Boy, I so should return to it one day. But I have Monster Fic, and I haven't even typed that one.

[identity profile] zibbycomix.livejournal.com 2008-09-23 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I ususally just use italics for emphasis when I'm writing fics. In e-mails, however, all rules go out the window and I'll use whatever way I want to emphasize words- boldface, capslock, astrisks, etc. But I agree- in fanfiction or regular fiction, anything besides italics is distracting.

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