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It's Lion Turtles all the way down ([personal profile] lettered) wrote2006-03-06 04:06 am

Let's talk about word emphasis. And sundry.

G. TKP: I shaved my arm-pits.
TKMom: Cool. Let me see.
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TKMom: They're so sparkly!
R. Got 4th rejection letter. Am waiting to get rejected to 3 more grad schools. Go me.
A. Writing month! It's a time to discuss how we write, why we write, what we write. DISCUSSION, it squeezes me up out of defjection from rejection (marvel at my rhyme) like a tight hug or one of those stress things, the ones you squeeze and have to keep grabbing hand over fist lest they slip from your hands entirely. It's about being constructive, and possibly positive, and gazing at our navels with shining, dewy eyes and wondering words that tumble from our mazed-parted lips in the form of, "I'm beautiful; I'm really beautiful!"

V. Er, the point of this post...

I've seen people use
bold font
*astrisks*
/slashes/
\backslashes\
-dashes-
_these thingies_
CAPSLOCK
"quotes"
'single quotes'
~are these things called tildas?~
=equals signs--no, really!=
underlined text

and much more in order to:

-emphasize a word or phrase
-signify a thought taking place in a character's head
-denote a flashback
-emphasize a word occuring within a sentence/phrase/whatever that's already italicized because it's a flashback or a thought

Me, I only ever use italics for these things inside a fic (what I do in my posts and comments is a completely different story to me). When I want to emphasize something occuring already inside an italicized phrase, I un-italicize the word I want to emphasize, as demonstrated above. I only use italics for these purposes for several reasons:

-this is the way I see it done in published fiction.
-uniformity, which is somewhat connected to the next to ideas, so I won't go into it that much. In short, the reader doesn't have to guess why I emphasized some words in one way and other words in another way, or try to decipher whether the different ways of emphasis connotate different levels of importance.
-if I need another tool besides italics to convey my meaning, my meaning is probably convoluted, and could stand simplification until I only need italics in order to make my point.
(e.g., in Down There In The Reeperbahn I really wanted the dialogue bits to occur with as little narrative background as possible, and thus I had a problem of signifying who was saying what lines. I ended up using italics to signify Dru's voice. If it was still unclear who was speaking, there was a problem with my concept, my dialogue, and my presentation, and those are things that can't be fixed by resorting to using other "signifiers" to denote other people talking.)
-how they look. Italics are subtle and don't call a lot of attention to themselves. For me, all those other things do. Bold, CAPSLOCK, and underline have a tendency to draw the eye. (When skimming my flist, I almost always read the CAPSLOCKED text, the links, and the cut title first, because the colors and size call attention to themselves. It's lead to me missing important information contained in the regular text.)
Asteriks, slashes, dashes, et al, not only call attention, but add something to the text that is not meant to be read. This bothers me a lot. I feel that everything in most kinds of fiction should be a part of the text. Asterisks used to emphasize a word are not things that we read, but visual clues that the words they enclose are important.

I'd like to note that I am a big fan of making text a visual experience. Poetry, notably through e e cummings and the like, uses the shape of words and the space on the page as part and parcel to the piece itself. Prose is a different thing, but I don't quite believe it when people say this is the difference. Reading is looking at marks on a page, whether prose or poetry, whether the text transports you to a new world or not.

As such, I love prose that experiments/does new things with space and those marks on said page. The first time I saw it done in prose was Toni Morrison's Beloved, in which she eliminated spaces between some words in order to produce confusionurgencypanic. I've seen some fic-authors use that same technique to extraordinary effect. And when it comes to this kind of experimentation, I feel there is no right and wrong. Pynchon uses mathematical equations in the middle of text, and even though I for the most part don't understand it, I fangirl the effort.

But when some fic-authors use *asterisks* merely to emphasize a word, it doesn't appear to me to be trying something new with space or text-shape or anything like that. It appears to me to be just another way to emphasize a word, and in a way I find distracting and detrimental to the look of the text as a whole. Bold or CAPSLOCK could be used very purposely to draw the eye--to trick the reader into reading in a non-linear fashion, which could, if the author is very clever, produce an effect the reader would not otherwise experience. But when some fic-authors use Bold or CAPSLOCK , again, they seem to be doing so only for word-emphasis, and again, in a way I find distracting and detrimental.

That said, there are uses for some of these styles other than word emphasis. Some are:

-underlining book titles.
-boldfacing titles of segments of the text (part one, part two, so on.)
-boldfacing a sign, or business card, etc. Some books seem to want to physically show you the business card or sign. The block of text saying what's on the card is usually indented and formatted to look like a sign. I usually stay away from this use; it falls into the category of "if I can't show this through regular text, there's something wrong with my writing, not my visual presentation." But, I've seen some authors do it, so there, exception to the "way it's done in published books" rule of mine.
-CAPSLOCKING a disembodied or really powerful voice. For instance, JKR probably wore out her capslock button on Book 5. I stay away from this use also, for the same reasons as above.
-"quoted" or 'single-quoted' words obviously have their place in text, but they shouldn't be used as italics are, imo. I'm told there's an episode of "Freinds" and Ross air-quoting "thanks" that could probably explain the difference.


Anyway, I've seen excellent authors I admire use many of these styles, especially boldface, CAPSLOCK, and *astrisks*. No matter who's writing it, it throws me out of the text. But that's me, my opinion, my way of writing, and my way of reading. What're your thoughts on the matter? How do you use these tools, if you use them? What do you think when you see them in text?
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[identity profile] swmbo.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
I am mostly with you on all of those - and also if there are too many italics. Which, I know I tend to over italicize myself and have to try to go back and break myself of the habit. But if anything is bold or uses unusual characters, it stresses me out because it makes it hard to get lost in the fic.

Capslocking doesn't bother me as much, if it's done for a particular and consistent reason. I've seen the voice of GOD done in caps and it works well, but it has to be something where it's there for power, not shouting.

Special formatting for letters, telegraphs, faxes, business cards, etc wouldn't bother me if they're reproduced entirely. It might throw me out of the fic a little, but I think that's actually the POINT of it, that we are experiencing the same experience as the characters as close as possible. Although I might be ascribing too much to the author's motivation!

I don't like book titles underlined in fiction, though, because it doesn't feel natural.

My main thing is that the physical words should not distract from the message contained within the text.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Totally with you on the over-using italics can get almost as bad, thing. I try to limit myself, but I do get carried away.

There's something about capslocked text that turns me right off, even if it's a voice of power, as you say. It's possibly because I'm used to thinking of capslocking as yelling, due to too much time on the internet--which is weird though, because some lj-ers use lotsa capslock for emphasis on posts, and it's fun and entertaining because they just come off all enthusiastic or excited. But in fic ack! The other reason it turns me off is because it honestly takes me a lot longer to read. I'm a slow reader anyway, and the letters look different in caps, and they're just harder for me to decipher. Especially when it's a font with serifs. How picky is that?

It might throw me out of the fic a little, but I think that's actually the POINT of it, that we are experiencing the same experience as the characters as close as possible. Although I might be ascribing too much to the author's motivation!

No, I think that in the case of published fiction, you're right; that's what they're going for. But it personally throws me too far. Even if the business card is important to the story, if it's the only--or one of the few--blocks of texts that's emphasized in that way, it makes that bit of text stand out more than any other text in the novel--and is it really all that important? If it is, right on. If it isn't--I myself would prefer the card to be described, or a line on it to be told in dialogue.

[identity profile] swmbo.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
*nods*

Oh yeah, I was assuming that the card of the fax or whatever was essential to the story. If it's just there because it's a gimmick - well, gimmicks in general tend to bother me!

Hee! Well and if anybody used capslock in a fic like I use them in an LJ post, I'd have to go over to their house and beat them over the head.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
It's funny, because I was thinking about [livejournal.com profile] stoney321--and what I've seen of your posts--when I made the comment about some people's lj posts being rife with capslock, and how it's fine for posts but not for stories. Which of course, got me to thinking. COULD a fic be written in the zesty, impulsive stream-of-exburant-thought way people like you and stoney post?

That's me. As soon as I think "that would be bad" I think "hey! I wanna try it!" ;o)

[identity profile] swmbo.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 12:34 pm (UTC)(link)
HEE!

I encourage you! The hard part would be figuring out what character would *work*.

[identity profile] swmbo.livejournal.com 2006-03-07 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

I had to ask.

*kills self*

(That might just be the best fic ever written and then I'd have to take back everything I'd ever said)