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It's Lion Turtles all the way down ([personal profile] lettered) wrote2006-04-09 01:51 pm

Drabble rec. And sundry.

[livejournal.com profile] spuffyduds margaritas my Mexican dinner*. She's writing limericks. *whimpers with joy*

But anyway the point of this disturbingly affectionate and even more disturbingly spontaneous post is this drabble. How come I didn't write that?

Also, it's because I've been meaning for a while now to wave my cane and yell at you hoodlums to stop saying things like, "She couldn't say why; this was something she just had to do." Because that means in bad-author-speak, "Yeah I don't know where I'm going with this."

JEEZ!

Which just kills a lot of the affection and spontaneity, really.

*edited for artistic purposes.

ETA2: 2am is apparently equal to crack in la vie de TKP. This is why I am not a spontaneous poster. Did you see how I deleted the other post that looked exactly like this? Another thing, kids. I'm getting tired of "straining against the confines of his pants." THINK OF A NEW PHRASE. Or. Possibly. GO WRITE LIMERICKS. And never share them.

ETA3: 3am, and all's well. Fanfic writers of the world, Michelangelo's David is very beautiful, yes. But keep in mind, if you must excessively liken Angel or Spike or who have you to him, he had a rather small schlong. Last bit, I promise.

ETA4: I lied. Right to your faces. My hair looked fabulous today, and McDonald's now has chicken biscuits like Chik-fil-a. It will be seven in 3 hours and I can go get some. I think I might need coffee, just a wee bit. Dude! Remind me never to make posts late at night, ever. Go read [livejournal.com profile] spuffyduds's drabble.
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[identity profile] femmenerd.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
You confusing wench! *re-comments*

*musing*

Point. And although characters sometimes actually don't know why they're doing something, the author still should, and there are other ways of hinting at it. Although I suppose that the first person could be some kind of exception except for the fact that it seems relatively rare that a character would say, "I have no idea why I'm doing this."

And btw, I'm pretty sure that when you go in to edit a post there is a "delete post" option in there at the bottom. Must be as I've deleted a post or two in my day.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
hahahahaha! I'm sorry. It's late enough where I thought that wouldn't disrupt too many people. Just you! You make me wish I could grow you in a pot and talk to you all through the night. In a very non-crazy way.

Oh, totally. There are actually some instances where the phrase in question could COMPLETELY work. Tight third person limited in which the character really DOESN'T have a clue. But good writers have a better way of saying it. And bad writers use this EXACT phrase as a crutch when they don't know the motivations of their characters.

And yep, figure out how to delete it.

*slobbers all over your icon*
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[identity profile] femmenerd.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 07:21 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, your insane potted-plant-femme idea is probably the best compliment I've gotten recently. *grins maniacally*

I wonder just how many shirtless Mal icons I can acquire so that I can keep that as my default without also becoming bored.

And in relation to your last post, I only really use the thesaurus when I'm stuck and I need the *right* word to come to me. However, I almost never use a word that I've never experienced before right off the bat--I usually have to have some kind of a relationship with a word before I'll start using it in my own writing. You know--have read it, sampled it, tasted it--looked it up a few times first. And I have certainly looked up words when reading fanfic--I'm a big nerd, didn't you know? One very funny thing to me was that while I was studying for the GRE (SO many vocab flashcards, OMG) a great many of the words on my lists were to be found in one Ms. [livejournal.com profile] rahirah's fanfic, someone who generally wins with me for writing excellent Buffy-voice while also throwing in juicy words in just the correct way.

And hmmm, I think of my fic as being somewhere in the middle of the smarty-pants words spectrum, but really it's one of those things where it's hard to have perspective on one's self. I do think that I tend to generally spend my vocabulary with a modicum of economy--i.e. I don't use big words just to use them--they have to serve some purpose. This applies to my academic writing as well. OTOH, sometimes I think that perhaps I could be more linguistically daring. Heehaw.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 07:41 am (UTC)(link)
Potting you is NOT an insane idea because I said it'd be a completely non-crazy thing. See? Although truth be told, at first you were very pretty and a very bright green, clover colored, and I kept you in a hothouse with a silver water can beside you and stroked your leaves . . . both the smooth soft tops and the bumpy porous sides. For you were a fern. Then you morphed into one of those dancing daisies (with the sunglasses) that were all the rage in the 90s, and though you looked a trifle ridiculous I still treasured you and your spindley, terpsichorean figure very much. I learned the word terpsichorean from Stulti last post, and look Ma, NOT CRAZY.

Not just shirtless Mal. Broody, upset looking Mal.

I almost never use a word that I've never experienced before right off the bat--I usually have to have some kind of a relationship with a word before I'll start using it in my own writing.

Someone else said they wouldn't use a completely new word in a fic because it would feel "hollow." And I was like yeah! I did feel that way when I did it! And I thought at first it was just because it felt like cheating--shouldn't use it if I don't really KNOW it, that sort of thing. But the way you've said this here makes me realize something I *felt* but didn't know how to articulate: if you're not familiar with a word you don't know its ins and outs, you can't play with it and turn it on its head. I try to alleviate that if it's new (which again, is rare...only in that one fic) or is uncertain (which happens more often than I'd like), by Googling around and finding sentences in which its used so I can get a feel for the word. Still, not the same as having a "relationship" with it.

a great many of the words on my lists were to be found in one Ms. [info]rahirah's fanfic,

Heh, that's so cool! I'll have to take note next time I read one of her fics. I had this book for the SATs that was a novel, with the SAT words in boldface, with a glossary in the back. It was AWFUL! The story was atrocious, and having to flip back three times a page drove me crazy. Though I think I was in 7th grade or something when I was reading it, which explained why I hardly knew any of the words. I learned the word "bovine" from that book; I remember that one.

OTOH, sometimes I think that perhaps I could be more linguistically daring.

I just wish I felt like I had more words at my finger-tips. I read some books and it's just depressing a. how many words I don't know, b. how many words I would've never thought to use. I don't necessarily want to use "bigger" or more sophisticated words... I just wish I had that option.
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[identity profile] femmenerd.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 07:47 am (UTC)(link)
I just wish I felt like I had more words at my finger-tips. I read some books and it's just depressing a. how many words I don't know, b. how many words I would've never thought to use. I don't necessarily want to use "bigger" or more sophisticated words... I just wish I had that option.

That pretty much encapsulates my feelings on the subject as well.

Broody, upset-looking Mal is so hot it's terpsichorean. /flagrant abuse of language and sense.

And then OTOH, there's always this. *points to icon*
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 07:59 am (UTC)(link)
Ahahahahahaha! Good one! What's funny is I don't find NF nearly so hot as Mal. Have I already said that? I can't remember. He does have a niiiice ass.

Broody, upset-looking Mal is so hot it's terpsichorean. /flagrant abuse of language and sense.

Yet, strangely sense-making to me.
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[identity profile] femmenerd.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 08:03 am (UTC)(link)
I almost never find actors as hot as characters--it's because I like fake people, I've decided. Although I do fangirl on NF more than on most other actors because he is funny and charming and goofy, if not brooding and angsty!hot. Also, very nice and supportive of fandom, it seems.
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[identity profile] femmenerd.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 08:14 am (UTC)(link)
Not only am I tired of all of the constricting pants in the world of fanfic but I'm really tired of the people doing things to "gain better access"--I just don't know, I'm over it. Apparently there's a thing with cock liberation or something.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 08:16 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think I've ever found an actor as attractive as a character. But it's just something I often say about Mal because I really don't find NF very hot at all. He's good looking, just...I dunno, doesn't really do much for me. But he does seem like a great person. There's nothing better than a personable star.

And omg that's a cute one too!
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[identity profile] femmenerd.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
Don't tell, but I often feel that way about James Marsters.

*waits for the stoning*
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
lolololol! Yeah! That explains why it's always RAGING. Erection, or merely a hard on, cocks're always RAGING.

I'm starting to want to write a fic now made entirely up of porn cliches. There seem to be so many more in porn scenes than elsewhere in fiction.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 08:22 am (UTC)(link)
*throws pebbles*

I've heard quite a few people say that about JM...but most weren't avid Spike fans. I do find JM sexy though, even if he is small. He has a good voice. That always sells me.
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[identity profile] femmenerd.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 08:30 am (UTC)(link)
He's sexy...I just don't care that much. And neither he nor most anyone else will ever be as sexy to me as Spike is. I think he's a good actor and has a charismatic presence and I do wish that he'd find something better to do with his talent than what he's been doing lately.

I feel relatively certain that I've met a few other avid Spike fen that were lukewarm on the Marsters, but there *are* quite a large number of JM fangirls out there. Enough for an entire convention apparently. Many of whom I love dearly, but you will not find me there. Of course, I'll be just starting school. The only real reason I'd be tempted would be to fangirl the fangirls but I can do that elsewhere...like at Writercon where it is All About Us (oh and um, words and stuff).

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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 08:49 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I've never seen JM as anyone but Spike; I've never seen an interview, nothin'. Anyway, from what I know of him, he's not appealing to me as a person, but Spike's presence is his presence and I find it attractive.

I want to go to writercon. It's for real, now, definitely not happening. Oh well. Next year! And I can't wait to live vicariously and hear what a fun time everyone had!
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[identity profile] femmenerd.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 08:53 am (UTC)(link)
I am so sad that you are not going to be there! *whines*

*goes to bed*
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 09:00 am (UTC)(link)
me too!
me too!

[identity profile] chrisleeoctaves.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 12:22 pm (UTC)(link)
How can you stay up all night and function the next day?
Still, your post amuses me.
*g*

[identity profile] spuffyduds.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 01:01 pm (UTC)(link)
"Shirtless Mal" and "bored" in the same paragraph? I'm confused.

[identity profile] spuffyduds.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 01:04 pm (UTC)(link)
And thank you ever so much for the pimpage! You're a sweetie.

[identity profile] filmnoir6.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 01:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree about the nonspecific writing, tkp: Be direct and concise with what your narrator says! (Unless the narrator's incoherent already and that is their style...but still)

[identity profile] dlgood.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 02:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, it's because I've been meaning for a while now to wave my cane and yell at you hoodlums to stop saying things like, "She couldn't say why; this was something she just had to do." Because that means in bad-author-speak, "Yeah I don't know where I'm going with this."

This sort of line almost never works when it's 3rd person author voice saying it. OTOH, it can work just fine if it's first person...

For example, it can work just fine if we've got HS Xander telling Buffy or Willow or Cordy that he has no idea why he's doing __insert stupid teenaged boy thing here__ because that would fit well enough with the characterization.

More frequently, yeah, I agree with you. Because it's almost like a case where the author is trying to jam a square peg into a round hole and using the short cut rather than working with characterization....

[identity profile] semby.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 02:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow! I'm exhausted and I just slept for 8 hours! Please enjoy lots of coffee. Or a nap.

And that was a helluva fantastic drabble!
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[identity profile] entrenous88.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
See, I went to bed at just the wrong time! However, I wasn't reading LJ, but playing WebBoggle. *must resist playing again*

*fluffs your fabulous hair**

[identity profile] 43100.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
!!

You have to make posts late at night ALWAYS.

Read the drabble, loved it, commented, etc.

Another thing, kids. I'm getting tired of "straining against the confines of his pants." THINK OF A NEW PHRASE. Or. Possibly. GO WRITE LIMERICKS. And never share them.

Read a lot of NC-17, dontcha?

McDonald's has... chicken biscuits. There's not even a McDonald's here... But there's Burger King! And they have chicken biscuits. There's also a "Bojangles", and the only good biscuit they have IS the chicken biscuit.
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[identity profile] femmenerd.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
"Shirtless Mal" and "bored" in the same paragraph? I'm confused.

Hee. Good point. I just tend to change my default icon a lot but it's been shirtless Mal for awhile now and in order to keep myself from being itchy, I switch off with *slightly* different icons. I just haven't, um, wanted to look at anything else *more* for an extended period of time. *g*
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't function! That's the whole problem! I can't get to sleep any more and I'm like on a hang-over from me weird hyper-hyperness the next day.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
No problem. That one's going to stick with me for a while. I guess I just never thought about Jenny as being conflicted, even though she OBVIOUSLY was. You just pulled it off really well is such a wee space!
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, there're instances in which the line could work. But I see those exact words used so often when it's obvious the narrator wants the character to do something the author herself can't explain. And the author should always be able to explain. Whether she does is another matter entirely . . .
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh definitely, first person, whole new ballpark. And even third person, the line could work, because Xander really might NOT know what compels him to do such and so a thing. But there are better ways to say it than, "this is just something he had to do." That's the kind of LAME excuse teenagers use when they HAVE to go to that party and they're parents won't let them. It's something people and characters use, but (third person) narrators shouldn't. Oy.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
It was! It made me think!

Yeah, I slept in, I'm a terrible person! But I have to go to the dentist today so I'm allowed special sleep time.

[identity profile] dlgood.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
It's something people and characters use, but (third person) narrators shouldn't.

I'm generally used to seeing it in fics (and in online debates) as a prelude to the "even though their behavior didn't indicate this at all, Character X was really super-duper in love with Character Y, only they didn't know it" so now in my fanfic I'm going to make them pass go directly to kissy-kissy...
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't know there was such a thing. OMG, I LOVE boggle. And this is now addictive. ACK!

No longer fabulous. I slept on it. *fluffs you back*
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, please do! ;o)
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure do. I'm a pornaholic.

BURGER KING HAS CHICKEN BISCUITS? Dude. All this time I'd be so sad when Chik-fil-A was closed on Sunday and all these other places have them. I love biscuits. I want to marry one when I grow up.

[identity profile] dlgood.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe when I get time to write that Lilah Morgan/Ron Burgundy AtS/Anchorman crossover...

[identity profile] baffae.livejournal.com 2006-04-10 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
ah you crack me up!

Michelangelo's David is very beautiful, yes. But keep in mind, if you must excessively liken Angel or Spike or who have you to him, he had a rather small schlong

but he does have HUGE hands. I find large hands very attractive. and they come in handy ;)
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[personal profile] lynnenne 2006-04-10 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Heeeee! Personally I think you should make more late-night drive-by posts. But on the other hand, GO TO BED OMG!!!

[identity profile] a2zmom.livejournal.com 2006-04-11 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Spike's ten inches of cold hard steel strained against the confines of his jeans. Angel couldn't say why he had to open those pants, he just knew he did.

Spike's cock was rampant and raging, already weeping pre-cum.

Angel swallowed all ten inches of Spike's love sword, sucking hard until Spike emptied his cold dead seed down Angel's throat.

You've always been my favored childe Spike and now we're bound together. I love you, Spike.


The end and review immediately or I won't write more.

[identity profile] a2zmom.livejournal.com 2006-04-11 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
What I love about David is Michealangelo made the ablls different sizes. Probably the first scuptor in history to pay attention to that particular anatomical fact.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-11 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Oh you wit you! And yeah oh yeah, his hands are so good. I think hands might be the feature I'm attracted to most.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-11 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Not being able to sleep is like being scratched by itty bitty fingernails all over me. My skin and eyes start to feel raw and the MADNESS lurking under my skin seeps to the fore like pus. It's like I take off my skin and dance around my bones.

Sometimes your Dru icon is so appropriate.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-11 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
In fact, Michelangelo is THE first artist to include ablls in a sculpture, anywhere!

Joking aside though I never even noticed the seismically correct testes. I know that that's actually not what seismic means, but isn't that a great porn line? Seismic testes.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-11 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
ZOMG SO GOOD!!!!!!!!!!111!1!!1 srsly, best thing i ever red 4eva omg the part where he cummed sooooooooooo good and they so in luv!!!!!!!11 but u didnt say PEARLS OF PRE-CUM we all no thats the best part like a necklace pretty pearl cum necklace omg i cant blieve u didnt do that FLAME FLAME U SUCK I HATE YOUR HAIRDRESSER plz put that in there kthx i cant wait til u update.

[identity profile] a2zmom.livejournal.com 2006-04-11 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
they cause volcanic erruptions.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-11 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
exactly.

[identity profile] stultiloquentia.livejournal.com 2006-04-12 07:07 am (UTC)(link)
Broody, upset-looking Mal is so hot it's terpsichorean.

*echoes your maniacal grin* It's the word of the week! *pirouettes*

Stupid un-related question

[identity profile] imnotacommittee.livejournal.com 2006-04-13 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
I hope you don't mind going totally off track, but I have a LJ question:
How do I write a link to something (either to a LJ entry or someplace else on the web) and label the link something. Like you did in this entry when you have "this drabble" as a link?

Does that make sense?

Thanks!
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-04-13 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Not stupid at all! Took me a while to figure it out too. Though, if you ever need to figure out how to do something like that on lj, the code is all HTML, and there are some pretty good html tutorials out there. But they can be long and involved, so often I just ask!

The code is:

<a href="whatever your url is">the title of your link</a>

Your link will look like:

the title of your link

Re: Stupid un-related question

[identity profile] imnotacommittee.livejournal.com 2006-04-18 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
thank you! I'll be sure to test it out soon. :-)