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It's Lion Turtles all the way down ([personal profile] lettered) wrote2006-10-21 06:45 pm

Fanweek Recap #1


THIS WEEK IN TKP's WORLD OF FANDOM:

[livejournal.com profile] marenfic had a cool discusion, about how sometimes writing in closed canon feels like it's all been done. For instance, B/A fics start to feel the same, after a while. There was discussion about multifannishness, freshness and enthusiasm in fandom, and the infinite potentiality of plot/concept/execution of fic. Great topic and discussion.

And [livejournal.com profile] kita0610 went, What, you want new B/A? Get your fresh hot of the press, it's everything we know and love but have never thought of in this way before fic here. If Ever 's epic and intimate; frail and robust; it's darkness on hard shiny gold; if you haven't read it, go read it. And with someone who's always slashing Angel writing B/A, we kicked off The Week Of Fans Outside The Box.

[livejournal.com profile] crazydiamondsue promptly squeed, "B/A! B/A! My het OTP, B/A!", when we all know her heart belongs to slash. Which is apparently why her and [livejournal.com profile] elcazavampiros promptly sat down an made a B/S vid (Something There). Apparently she got the Outside The Box memo. The vid is hilarious and quite sweet, and there's a hil-frickin'-larious Angel pun near the beginning. It's their first vid (read: so fb), which made it, you guessed it, outside the box.

At this point, the [livejournal.com profile] chrisleeoctaves we all know and love would have said, yeah, but let's get back on the subject of B/A. But apparently pod![livejournal.com profile] chrisleeoctaves took over and saw slashers doing all this het, and our beloved, consummate, so reliably B/Aer said, Screw that. I'm doing slash. Sign On The Dotted Line is a quickie I highly recommend for the sound of Angel's zipper. The voices are spot on. And? Outside Chrislee's Box (dude. That sounds diiiirty).

Which made [livejournal.com profile] lostakasha voice the declaration that was my number one fandom lesson this week: Chrislee can do anything. We thought we knew, but we didn't until now. We really didn't. In fact, in a recent poll, 6 out of 13 people voted they wanted to be sad imitations of Chrisleeoctaves. Even Chrisleeoctaves.

But if [livejournal.com profile] lostakasha wants to be a sad, sad imitation of Chrislee, she needs to not do such a good job of going outside the box with her Xander/Wesley fic. That's a pairing I'm pretty much certain I've never seen before, and she pulled it off with panache, man. Percipitation is another instance of a talented author finding a way to say the stuff we all know and have been over before in ways that open new vistas we never even thought could happen for characters and details we know so well. I just want to frame some of her sentences. I highly rec reading and feeding.

And then [livejournal.com profile] marenfic was like yeah, but multifannishness, people. Remember, it was The Week Outside The Box. So [livejournal.com profile] chrisleeoctaves who often looks sadly at her flist and wonders why anyone would post anything that wasn't Buffyverse, said, "yeah, well, Booth/Hodgins! *flings at flist*". Which proves you apparently can teach a--a very young looking and beautiful dog new tricks. And lostakasha and tkp said again, Chrislee can do anything, with many foreheads to the floor.

But then we get to [livejournal.com profile] femmenerd, who in the interests of multifannishness went to Winchester Con and had the craziest stories about her and [livejournal.com profile] brandil pantyfanning on Jensen Ackles freakin' phone, and apparently hung out mostly with Buffyverse fans. I don't think Femmenerd even has a box, or a playpen, or even a pasture. And then there's [livejournal.com profile] romanyg, who has her roots in Buffverse, went to Winchester Con, but keeps posting Clex. The world, it is confusing.

And then all my flist sat down and watched BSG. And then I wrote something that smells like BSG fic (yes, I did just self pimp) and dude, that was totally out of my box. I confuse myself. *hangs head*

Things I zoomed by that look interesting, and I'm saving up to read:
Why [livejournal.com profile] my_daroga loves Phantom of Paradise
[livejournal.com profile] lostakasha Zack fic and catch up on her B/H WIP. BECAUSE SHE USED NEIL YOUNG, OMG
[livejournal.com profile] sweptawaybayou's DB/CK RPS
lots and lots of recs to look into by [livejournal.com profile] viciouswishes
Buffy/Gunn by [livejournal.com profile] viciouswishes

Things I learned this week in fandom:
1. Chrislee can do anything.
2. Posts about badfic always bring the kids to the yard.

and for the win:
3. Velvet over steel may be overused, but it sure beats "she sucked his saggy ball bag."

I might've had just a *little* too much time on my hands this week.

[identity profile] lostakasha.livejournal.com 2006-10-22 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Truth time... but only because [livejournal.com profile] kita0610 will read this and I want to make her pass liquid out of her nose.

When I read your bad!fic post, I was completely serious about you having mocked my fic. I have used probably 60% of those cliches in my porn. I love them, and I'm not ashamed, either. They have their roots in reality and I cling to them. And yes, like Snow, I too have had some lovely cock that I would happily and repeatedly describe as velvet over steel. Absolutely.

And, btw? Nothing sucks more than a weak orgasm. It's like an interrupted sneeze. In fairness, a dry fuck is worse. And sucking saggy ball bags. NOT THAT I HAVE lately but only because you know, the wife wouldn't approve and one day even Dave's will sag. Gravity is nobody's friend. Not even to the Big Boreanaz Ball Bag. I bet you dollars to donuts it's already heading toward his knees. Come 40 he's gonna need a tuck.

*cough*

I digress.

So I had to create some kind of witty rejoinder to hide my pain, thus the saggy sack crack. And today I look at the post as something akin to having SNL do a funny sktech about me. So all is cool. :-D

Full disclousure:

I have used brillo pubes. Not in this fandom, though. The cleaved, wormlike shaft? Is what's above the saggy ball bag. And one of these days, chickadee, you're gonna see it in my fic. With smegma.

Thank you for reccing me all over the place, oh bringer of Joy. Really. :::smooches you:::

And watch for the Saggy!Sac-a-thon because Giles and Ethan? So there.

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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-10-22 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
I would apologize to you, but I can't. I just can't. I have no words.

[identity profile] lostakasha.livejournal.com 2006-10-22 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Hee!

Smegma leaves me speechless too. Oh my goddess, that's gotta go in a Spike fic. Must. He brings beer to meetings and is a stranger to hygeine. *facepalm*

No apologies necessary :-D at all. I should apologize for the brillo pubes -- but that's a classic.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-10-22 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
I have read "smegma" in a Spike fic. No, I don't remember which fic. It was on adultfanfiction.net.

I TRY TO SCRUB THIS KIND OF THING FROM MY BRAIN. With steel wool.

[identity profile] lostakasha.livejournal.com 2006-10-22 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
With Brillo. That has no resemblance to the hair on Jack's head, BTW.

[identity profile] lostakasha.livejournal.com 2006-10-22 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
That Hodgins hair reference was SO WRONG.

*cries*
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-10-22 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
YOU ARE SO WRONG, OMG.

I was thinking about the Brillo, too, though.

[identity profile] lostakasha.livejournal.com 2006-10-22 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
And, no, I will not channel Kevin Meaney and sart saying things about "who makes the Jack sauce." No. I will not.

*stamps foot*
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-10-22 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
That is not right.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-10-22 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
My FIRSTBORN, Annie.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-10-22 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Also, I have read your porn and loved it. Now I'm *skeerd* to read all the stuff of yours I have on my list to read.

[identity profile] lostakasha.livejournal.com 2006-10-22 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, don't be skeered. Take the leap!

Besides, I really don't write that much porn if you think about it ... I've written 15 (I think) Booth/Hodgins fics and they've only fucked once, and that was so couched in poetic aerobics you can barely tell they're doing anything.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-10-22 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, actually. Funny. Because I think of you as writing more porn than you do. I think because your fic is sexy even when it is not porny. And, I find pron couched in poetic aerobics hot, too.

Then again. There's some porn which I tend to label as "bad writing" because it uses something like "female juices", and yet it still gets me hot. Both work for me on kinda different levels. I've never been able to reconcile these two facts.

In fact, as long as no one is inserting anything into clitorises or there are no self-lubricating manholes, we might be alright.

[identity profile] lostakasha.livejournal.com 2006-10-22 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Most of the porn i've written is in an RPG, and that was toughbecause the raison d'etre of the rpg was to have pretty boys fuck, so you do tend to run out of descritpives pretty quickly. Or you break up and there's keening.

Or there's Catherine Keener. I don't know. /rum.

Remember, I did do the litchi/labia comparison, but only because it's accurate to an amazing degree trust me. But see? That's why I don't do much femmeslash ... I'm afraid I'll have weeping womanly orifices and make too many fruity flesh comparisons (as in salted oregon cherries or that place on the plum where the skin tears from the inner flesh and it's tangy and sweet and soft oh... um... what? Right. My point.) You know I will do these things, yes.

And did I mention /rum?
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-10-22 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Well, the thing is, I think there *are* different ways to describe pretty boys fucking. I guess I'm an optimist--or maybe an idealist--in believing that one can always be original. But the thing is? Short hand? You might as well use the cliches, and if the only object is to get you/who you're writing with off, what I style "good" writing is NOT an imperative--at least, as I've said, not for me.

I've never had litchi, so I really wouldn't know.

But actually, I *love* fruity flesh comparisons. Some metaphors that I love and think are best ever, include both fruit and, uh, flesh. I suppose it *is* a cliche, but that one always gets me going.

Yeah, it really just depends, I guess. Good writing is always a kink. And some cliches, like flesh fruit, can be bent over in the service of good (uh, phrasing? Have I mentioned, /me, lots and lots of wine, also?), but sometimes, phrasing of which I am ashamed in a literary sense gets me going too.

But, not brillo. Sorry.
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[identity profile] femmenerd.livejournal.com 2006-10-22 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
HI! I have nothing interesting to say but this comment cracked me up.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-10-22 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
THIS COMMENT (lostakasha's, not yours) RUINED MY TAKE ON LIFE.

that is all.