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It's Lion Turtles all the way down ([personal profile] lettered) wrote2006-11-01 12:49 pm

Questions Post #14

LJ
-How come when your paid time runs out, you still get to keep your stuff? Like, I still get to have the component lay out. But if I went to change my layout, and then wanted to change it back to component, I wouldn't be able to because it's not an option for unpaid time. But I get to keep it even though I'm not paying! Weird. Now I'm afraid to change anything on my lj set up because I love component and don't want to revert.
-Those of you who have a personal journal and a fic journal--is your fic journal a comm? Why would you choose a comm over a journal? Why would you choose a journal over a comm? Are there different benefits to each?

Buffyverse and actor things
-Are the blood tears an Anne Rice thing?
-Is there a scene in canon in which Spike looks in a mirror or puddle or whatever, and doesn't see his reflection? I know they showed that with Angel fairly often, but I don't remember ever seeing it with Spike.
-Is vamping out audible? There's usually a sound for the morph into game face, except when there's not. But in "Spin the Bottle", they make it sound like Cordy can actually hear what Angel's doing in there. And it sounds like something his da probably would've told him would make him go blind.
-What's the deal with CC's mole? The one on the right side of her face kind of on her jaw? Every once in a while, they just let it be. Other times, they cover it with gobs of make-up. Is this because she has to wear gobs of make-up anyway, and it's too much trouble to make her mole shine, or are they trying to his it? It's a gorgeous mole. But its treatment bothers me. I AM NOT COMPLETELY OBSESSED WITH THIS SHOW. Oh, wait.
-Can VK sing? Don't you think he should be a choir boy? (TM Entrenous88)

Names
-Have any of you been around since before we learned Spike and Angel's real names (William and Liam)? If you have, did you give them other "real names" in fic?
-Or for those of you who haven't been around as long, have you read any fic written back then? What names did fic authors give Angel and Spike?
-What history did fic authors give Spike before FFL aired? I think I heard somewhere that most people assumed he was like a street theif type kid. I've read a fic or two with that in it.
-Why did they name Spike and Angel the same thing?
-What do Irish people usually call their moms?
-Do you ever feel like Buffy being named "Buffy" hurt BtVS's viewership? I know I scorned the show because I thought the name sounded stupid. I was too judgmental to realize the name might be a joke, but I bet lots of people were in my boat.
-It isn't an issue so much in Buffyverse--everyone always goes by their first names. Unless you're Gunn and then you've got Fred calling you Charles and Spike calling you Chuck or maybe hubcap happy, or Oz but everyone calls him Oz unless they don't know him. Because for Gunn and Oz those are special cases, as a narrator, you call them Gunn and Oz. But take, say, BSG. As the narrator, do you call Kara Kara, Starbuck, or Thrace, and Saul Saul or Tigh, and Adama Adama or Bill, and if you do just whatever feels natural, doesn't the inconsitency of calling some by their first names and some by their surnames and some by their call signs bother you? What about OCs? Does it depend on what capacity the OC plays in relation to people around them? What if some people around 'em would call 'em by first name, and some surname? I ran into this when I was writing Connor's post "Home" family--because they're Connor's *parents*, I never wanted to use their first names, especially when the third person was limited toward Connor. Then do you change what they're called when you limit the third person toward Angel? And is it more awkward for third person limited on Connor to use the surname of Connor's father, or his first name?
-What's your relation to your username? Do people ever call you it in rl? Do people call you it over im and in email? Do people call you it in comments to you, or just when they are talking about you, or do they never use it at all if they know you at all?
-If people know your real name, do you mind if they use it in public post or comments on lj? Does it feel different to you, you personally, if someone decides to use it instead of your username? Does it feel more intimate? Do you ever feel threatened by it? Like, if you were having an argument, and all the sudden they pulled your real name into the conversation. Does it feel like they're trying to make things suddenly personal?
-Someone told me this was weird once and that not all people feel this way. It has nothing to do with lj or usernames so turn that off for the moment. Does it ever feel weird when people use your name in rl? Like, of course people use it to call you or get your attention, but after that, when you're talking one on one face to face, how often does someone really use your name? Is it not often, and when they do does it feel like they're about to tell you something really terrible?
-Do you like the name Angel for the character Angel? Do you like the name Spike for the character Spike? Do you like the name Buffy for the character Buffy? How big a part do you think the name plays in how you feel about a character?
-Have you ever noticed how people in Jossverse have object names? Angel, Spike, Dawn, River, Faith, Shepherd Book (two!), Glory, Willow, Wood? Do you think the fact that most characters have kinda quirky names contribute to the feel of the shows as their own "universes"? Does it make the 'verse feel insular? Too insular? Too campy? Hard to come up with OC names for?

MOST IMPORTANTLY
-does decaf coffee still have caffeine in it?
-is it weird to have and sometimes still wear a shirt I got in fourth grade?

edited to strike Spike (hee! rhyme. ok) because I am stew pid. William the freakin' bloody, duh! Thanks, [livejournal.com profile] swmbo.
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[identity profile] entrenous88.livejournal.com 2006-11-01 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you think Connor, filling out various paperwork for Stanford, ever mistakenly wrote "The Destroyer" for his name, and then laughed out loud (a sort of half-anxious, half-pleased sound) before changing it?

In terms of "Angel" as a name -- we're supposed to think that it's from his sister Kathy calling him an Angel and inviting him in after he's turned into a vampire, right? Why he adopted that, though, I have no idea. I get why Angel(us) might have thought the name was sort of funny or ironic. And I get why Darla might call him that. But why was he like, "Gee, this is a good name for everyone to call me. Yes, yes, this says me like nothing else!"

The name Dawn still sort of bugs me because of a most likely unforseen but disarming effect the word can have in fanfiction. When people post a story that has nothing to do with Dawn, but begin a sentence/paragraph saying "Dawn came too soon..." I start thinking, when the hell did Dawn show up in this fic?

[identity profile] ros-fod.livejournal.com 2006-11-01 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you think Connor, filling out various paperwork for Stanford, ever mistakenly wrote "The Destroyer" for his name, and then laughed out loud (a sort of half-anxious, half-pleased sound) before changing it?

Hahahahahahahahahaha! Do you know what is never not funny? Connor referring to himself in the third person as The Destroyer

"The Destroyer wants an ice cream cone."

"The Destroyer is unhappy with the amount of sex you are having with other people."

Heeeeeeeeeee.
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[identity profile] entrenous88.livejournal.com 2006-11-01 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha! "Yes, The Destroyer paid his DSL bill. The Destroyer's check is in the mail."

[identity profile] ros-fod.livejournal.com 2006-11-01 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
THE DESTROYER'S CHECK IS IN THE MAIL.

*shrieks with laughter*

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
Wee!Connor: The Destroyer wants a snow cone machine! Where is The Destroyer's Big Wheel?

Spike: Last time I let Angelus name a kid.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-11-03 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
A: The Scourge of Europe wants you to shut the fuck up, Spike.

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2006-11-03 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
The Boys of Aurealius sure know how to pick a moniker, hunh?
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-11-03 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
The Master begs to differ.

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[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com - 2006-11-03 23:58 (UTC) - Expand
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
*snorfle*

and hi!

[identity profile] crazydiamondsue.livejournal.com 2006-11-01 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Dawn came too soon... Hahahaha! I actually punned that in "Sunday." *shameface* While Spike is hunting for Dawn and comes across Xander, he says anxiously, "Dawn!" and Xander assumes he's worried about daybreak. Yes, yes, I know.

I can't stop laughing about The Destroyer and the DSL bill.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
I punned on Dawn, too, in that 5 Way NFA Didn't End fic. It was bad, bad bad. I used the phrase (from Homer) "rosy fingered Dawn" in each part, and in one part, I think someone "touched her until her cunt was rosy, fingered Dawn and...did something else to her" . . . or something. Took my a long time to get the punctuation to work. And then another one Dawn's fingers were bleeding and that was a rosy fingered Dawn.

I . . . juggle geese.

[identity profile] crazydiamondsue.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
Geese juggler! And I didn't realize was Homer. You win. Your goose, however...alas, poor honker. We barely knew ye. (Yes, yes, I switched writers. Sue me. Joyfully. Okay. That was weak.)
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
That was weak

It really, really was.

[identity profile] southernbangel.livejournal.com 2006-11-01 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
but begin a sentence/paragraph saying "Dawn came too soon..." I start thinking, when the hell did Dawn show up in this fic?

I start thinking, did I just miss a sex scene?
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[identity profile] entrenous88.livejournal.com 2006-11-01 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
That Dawn. She always blows her wad early.

[identity profile] southernbangel.livejournal.com 2006-11-01 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Dawn's a squirter! HAHAHAH!!



(And oh dear god, I actually typed those words. *facepalm*)
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[identity profile] entrenous88.livejournal.com 2006-11-01 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha! Don't try to front like you have any shame.

[identity profile] southernbangel.livejournal.com 2006-11-01 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
"Dawn's squirting brings all the boys to yards
And they're like
Damn, she squirts far
Damn right, her squirt's better than yours
She can teach you
But she'd have to charge"


I'm keeping it real, yo. *flashes B/A gang sign*

[identity profile] southernbangel.livejournal.com 2006-11-01 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, [livejournal.com profile] tkp? I apologize for bringing the lameness to your post.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Are you kidding? If you hadn't've said something, I would've had to!

*holds your hand and skips!

through the gutter*
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder how much actual writing Connor got to do on Quor-toth. I mean you assume Holtz taught him and made him do it, but I bet they were mostly fighting a lot of monsters all the time. And like, getting tied to trees. I bet Connor had a little kid's handwriting when he came to this dimension. Hey, I wonder if he still had a little kid's handwriting when Angel did the spell. I bet instead they gave him an older person's writing and that he doesn't even spell "color" the English way. So my bet is when he's writing he's totally in "new Connor" mode. I bet it's more like when he plays frisbee or gets kittens out of trees or eats beef and someone says, "hey who are you," he might slip out with "The Destroyer."

Um yeah I might've thought about that a wee bit.

Well, considering the Angelus prayer, and what it means and everything, naming himself that just seems like the kind of twisted fucked up thing Angelus would do. Because he probably thought of himself as some kind of incarnation, too, except he ain't deliverin' you. Or something.

That bugs me about Dawn, too! But only in fanfic. And, like Sue, I punned on it too. So it can be fun!
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[identity profile] entrenous88.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
That reading of Angelus via the prayer makes sense, though I think that ME really was much simpler in their approach. At least, in "The Prodigal" when Angel says to his father about Kathy, who he's just killed, "She thought I was an angel returned to her," my take is that's their spin on where the name came from. We can definitely read it with a richer context, certainly, but yeah.

definitely very possible that Connor wrote not at all in Quor'toth. But I bet he could recite the Psalms from memory like nobody's business!
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
I doubt they thought of it either, but it's my fanwank.

I bet he could too!

And I like your icon! I want to do it, yes I do. I hope I can still sign up after today...
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[identity profile] entrenous88.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
I hear you. And it could be somewhat intriguing to imagine the story behind Angel's name as something that began from a simple moment (the probable ME explanation, Kathy at the door calling him an Angel) and then, in Angel's mind, growing/accruing to more mythic/degrading of sacredness status. Kind of like bar stories, or one-that-got-away stories, but evil.

And hey, you can sign up until late in the month, I think possibly as late as the 29th. So if you sign up soonish, you'd be many steps ahead of others still.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-11-02 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
in Angel's mind, growing/accruing to more mythic/degrading of sacredness status. Kind of like bar stories, or one-that-got-away stories, but evil.

Oh, now that idea I *love*. It should be a fic. Huh. *puts on to write list*

yay! yayayay! Thanks for the info!