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Joy ([identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com) wrote in [personal profile] lettered 2007-04-07 08:58 pm (UTC)

I wonder if he would have done so if Lydia was anyone else's sister besides Lizzie's.

I wonder the same.

her voice is very pretty,

That is a big part of what I meant.

but the song is dreary, frantic, has some flats/sharps, etc.

But it's not ugly. I dunno. The mood is right but the reality of it isn't. Which is again, me just being stubborn about Jane bursting into song.

I wonder if it's more of Rochester getting a shitty deal in life and having to deal with it or if he's a bad man. Period.

I don't think Rochester's a bad man and I think he got an extremely shitty deal. He could've been a better man (no way Mr. Darcy would do the things he did), but his actions toward Jane and even his wife were not intentionally malicious. Anyway, I've just realized that the point I was trying to make has to deal with my own personal kink: I like to see self-hatred expressed as anger towards other people, and often violence (in fiction! only!). It reads to me as a way to *force* other people away. The "woe is me" often reads (imo) as "pity me", even when the one-in-woe doesn't actually think they deserve pity. Of course, the CH Rochester is not trying to *force* Jane away with violence, but rather force her to stay, which I find far less appealing. But the violence and intensity and unkindness still manage to swing that kink of mine into operation, I guess.

I've heard that the Timothy Dalton version is the best adaptation of the story by some Pemberleans, but to each their own.

It's the most accurate and faitheful to the text. It is not, imo, the most faithful to the spirit.

where CP's Captain doesn't even consider it

I much prefer it that way.

It's Maria who comes up with the idea of singing in the concert, and it's Maria who decides to go over the mountains. While I wish the movie Maria had a bit more to say more in those final decisions, I'm glad they changed it to have the Captain be more of a leader

Huh! I think they'd have to change the movie significantly for Maria to be more of a mover and shaker in the ending scenes. She's not very political. I mean, yeah, I'd like her to have a voice, even her being the leader would be cool, but the way the movie stands it doesn't make sense for her character. Imo. I know real-life-Maria was a very different person. Though they're both really strong women.

I read a ficlette with all of Austen's heroes at a table pining for their ladies.

That does sound cool! Remember where you read it?

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