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It's Lion Turtles all the way down ([personal profile] lettered) wrote2007-03-27 06:33 pm
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Shameful musical confessions

1. I love that song, Sexy Back, by Justin Timberlake. Almost as much as I love Draco Malfoy but it's even more confusing and twice as shameful. *hangs head; feels alone*
2. I didn't know All Along The Watchtower. And yet I <3 Dylan.
3. I recently got Loudon Wainwright and Warren Zevon mixed up.
4. I love that song, Careless Whispers. You know, the one they play in the dentist's office, the "I'm never gonna dance again / guilty feet have got no rhythm" one. George Micheal, I guess. The one redeeming thing about it is I love the Ben Fold's/Rufus Wainwright version, not so much the original.
5. I didn't know "Because" was by the Beatles.
6. I wanted to use a lyric from "Teach Your Children" for a title of dirtybadreallyreallyreallywrong pornfic.
7. I listened to Pop Goes My Heart on the way to work today and was loving it so much, I was constructing a Angel/Buffy, Angel/Cordy, Angel/Connor vid in my head. About Angel's heart going pop. Yeah. That.
8. In fact pretty much all I think about when I hear songs these days are, would that make a good vid? or: would that work in a character mix thing? I have a really great Irish sea chanty thing by Ween that so needs to be Liam's theme song.
9. I burned a cd for [livejournal.com profile] seraphcelene, but I haven't sent it to her yet. Three months ago I also burned a cd for my s-i-l. I haven't sent it to her yet.
10. I lose at music! I really really lose. I never know what's going on. Unless [livejournal.com profile] stoney321 put it on a Connor mix.

eta: 11. And yesterday, as I was shocked to discover, I don't even own a Sound of Music soundtrack. Huh?
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2007-04-07 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder if he would have done so if Lydia was anyone else's sister besides Lizzie's.

I wonder the same.

her voice is very pretty,

That is a big part of what I meant.

but the song is dreary, frantic, has some flats/sharps, etc.

But it's not ugly. I dunno. The mood is right but the reality of it isn't. Which is again, me just being stubborn about Jane bursting into song.

I wonder if it's more of Rochester getting a shitty deal in life and having to deal with it or if he's a bad man. Period.

I don't think Rochester's a bad man and I think he got an extremely shitty deal. He could've been a better man (no way Mr. Darcy would do the things he did), but his actions toward Jane and even his wife were not intentionally malicious. Anyway, I've just realized that the point I was trying to make has to deal with my own personal kink: I like to see self-hatred expressed as anger towards other people, and often violence (in fiction! only!). It reads to me as a way to *force* other people away. The "woe is me" often reads (imo) as "pity me", even when the one-in-woe doesn't actually think they deserve pity. Of course, the CH Rochester is not trying to *force* Jane away with violence, but rather force her to stay, which I find far less appealing. But the violence and intensity and unkindness still manage to swing that kink of mine into operation, I guess.

I've heard that the Timothy Dalton version is the best adaptation of the story by some Pemberleans, but to each their own.

It's the most accurate and faitheful to the text. It is not, imo, the most faithful to the spirit.

where CP's Captain doesn't even consider it

I much prefer it that way.

It's Maria who comes up with the idea of singing in the concert, and it's Maria who decides to go over the mountains. While I wish the movie Maria had a bit more to say more in those final decisions, I'm glad they changed it to have the Captain be more of a leader

Huh! I think they'd have to change the movie significantly for Maria to be more of a mover and shaker in the ending scenes. She's not very political. I mean, yeah, I'd like her to have a voice, even her being the leader would be cool, but the way the movie stands it doesn't make sense for her character. Imo. I know real-life-Maria was a very different person. Though they're both really strong women.

I read a ficlette with all of Austen's heroes at a table pining for their ladies.

That does sound cool! Remember where you read it?

[identity profile] imnotacommittee.livejournal.com 2007-04-08 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
But it's not ugly. I dunno. The mood is right but the reality of it isn't. Which is again, me just being stubborn about Jane bursting into song.

Yes, it isn't ugly. I can't think of many musicals that are ugly. Maybe Sweeny Todd, but that was scary. And you have every right to be stubborn about such things! Apparently, many agreed with you, because the show didn't last very long. :-) And while I'm thinking of it, I noticed the odd lyrics that the characters were singing. I'm not familiar enough with the book to know, but it seemed like they were singing lines of dialog from the book itself. That never works. Nor does it work in reverse. In the PotP movie, Christine spoke the "twisted every way..." lines which simply did not work for me. Ewan McGregor (sp) said it best about that. There's a simplicity to lyrics that wouldn't work if spoken, but works when sung. It's the same way for lines from books. Sometimes, they shouldn't be sung.

Man, it sounds like (a) I'm a total snob and (b) I didn't like the musical. I don't know about the first one (heehee), but I did enjoy it. It makes for good music montages on Youtube.

I like to see self-hatred expressed as anger towards other people, and often violence (in fiction! only!). It reads to me as a way to *force* other people away.

Ah, I gotcha. Violence is very passionate, too. It's active, verses passive (which is that woe-is-me angle). And it works for stories like this. I wonder if he had torn a room apart in a rage, people would have received it better. Wait, did he? I only saw that clip where he was shaking her as she was leaving.

It's the most accurate and faitheful to the text. It is not, imo, the most faithful to the spirit.

I don't think I asked you this, and I'm sorry if I did... but which one captures the spirit the best? none of them might completely, I know, but does one come closest?

I much prefer it that way.

Yeah, it's much better with no doubt in his mind. Although it would have been cool to see that admiral inside the house, like in the play. And it would have been cool if he said something to Maria... oh, wait... that's my sick sense of coolness shining through ;-)

Huh! I think they'd have to change the movie significantly for Maria to be more of a mover and shaker in the ending scenes. She's not very political. I mean, yeah, I'd like her to have a voice, even her being the leader would be cool, but the way the movie stands it doesn't make sense for her character.

I remember reading somewhere, somewhen that Maria was originally scripted to have a few political thoughts dashed here and there. Not much. I think she would have said something in a group, caught the Captain's attention, and establish that they share the same views and love of Austria. It was part of the reason I had the politics in My Mind and Soul. But the movie Maria is strong and stands by Georg. It's understood that she agrees with him. There's no question that his decision to leave everything they know that very night is a good or bad one.

The only scene I think could have been re-done without changing too much would be the decision to climb over the mountains. It wouldn't have been much, and I wouldn't want Maria's maternal concern to be axed. But when the Rev. Mother says the borders have been closed, I would have loved to see Georg and Maria look at each other and mutually decide to start climbing. But I don't hate the scene or anything. It is what it is.

Shoot. Now I'm thinking of what Maria would have been thinking/fearing/dreading while Georg was walking towards Rolf. I think that would be the part where I'd be the most frightened. Not running, not hiding, but waiting... Oh, plot bunnies!!!!

That does sound cool! Remember where you read it?

That writers' guild website that's so hard to navigate. When I get more moments, I'll try to hunt it down.

BTW, I mailed your CDs yesterday. Hippity Hoppity!