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It's Lion Turtles all the way down ([personal profile] lettered) wrote2010-10-08 05:21 pm

FIC: Love Like Other Things

I decided to copy [personal profile] fulselden and try some prompts on [livejournal.com profile] 31_days. What I really wanted to do was make myself write little short things every day so at least I'd be finishing things, but when I started writing this I realized I really want to write this as a novel, so this is probably bad for me.

Title: Love Like Other Things
Fandom: Hades/Persephone
Length: not quite 500
Rating: everyone




She outgrew love like other things: home and flowers blown, fruit fallen from the vine. Winter came and laid its blanket down. Six seeds within her pulled her underground, with stones.

Fingernails still grow after death, and her skin grew white within those walls. Tresses, lips and lashes grew black with fungus. Like decay, she grew into a queen, all her flowers gone.

Underneath, grain and home curled in sleep. They did not disturb her now, like other things.

She never grew to love him.

Spring came, like other things: fruit and flowers, cereal and chaff. That summer was the first time she heard Orpheus sing. His hair was as bright as a chariot; his mouth was red like fruit. His song sang of earlier days, before the fruit, before the fall.

Persephone looked away. On her knees, she had eaten the seeds, and now she knew. Above the ground was the tomb of childish things. There was no going there again, her belly ripe with rot. She was looking forward to the fall.

That winter, another girl got gone, her eyes gaping and gilded. Persephone professed disinterest (Eurydice was not the first to run away from home), until Orpheus followed to disinter her.

From the first meeting, her husband hated him. Orpheus’s hair and harp sang of spring and other things, when Persephone was bright and prospered still, a blossom. In his efforts to exhume his wife, Orpheus excavated her husband even farther down, dug him right down to the root when there had never been a flower. There there was the seed of a man—resentful, jealous and alone, sick for homes he never had. Orpheus’s eyes were the color of Hades’s brothers’ houses.

"He cast me out," said Hades. "Is this my kingdom? Is this my home?"

“That’s all behind us,” Persephone told her husband. “Now we are grown up.”

Hades never could deny her but one thing.

He let Orpheus go up with but one command, the thing that his wife had told him about going forward. Orpheus disobeyed, and the punishment was that he should grow up and forget her there, the green girl in a cave. She wore the price in her eyes that he paid with his heart.

Underground, Persephone reached from her throne to cup the young girl’s cheek. Her hand was thin and pale like bone, her nails sharp as briars. The girl’s cheek was petal-soft, warm with life and surface-thoughts. Her mouth—trembling, longing, lost—was as ripe as Orpheus’s, full before the rot. The flesh of fruit used to taste like home.

In the Underworld, compassion tasted like ash, distant and quite empty. “It will pass,” Persephone told the child. “We outgrow love, like other things.”
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[personal profile] fulselden 2010-10-09 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
This is wonderful and I am awesomed by my association with it!

I love the almost time-lapse picture of Persephone growing into decay; the way she still feels it inside her while watching blue-eyed Orpheus in the sun, Euridice's gaping and gilded eyes.

And the bitter version of growing up - as opposed to ripening, her mother's area of expertise - invoked by Persephone. Not to mention the way that, as you frame it, it's Persephone who ends up with Euridice.

And your Hades, with his resentment and sickly indulgence, seems just right to me.

On her knees, she had eaten the seeds, and now she knew.

Worst. Uncle. Ever.
Though ... actually, he has quite some competition in Greek myth.

Anyway, spectacular and totally seasonal! *Has just sorted through vast load of field-picked mushrooms; feels familiar with rot.*

And I would read this as a novel like a shot! 31_days is useful for me as a training-wheels intro to this 'writing fiction' business, but I would love to see this spiral out into something non-prompt-constrained.
Edited 2010-10-09 15:36 (UTC)
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[personal profile] stultiloquentia 2010-10-09 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Oooh, ooh, I would read that.

I have a rec for you: Dare to Bake a Peach. It's Labyrinth fic. Yep, that Labyrinth, the David Bowie one. It has a take on Persephone that I really love.
Sarah picked up a kitchen towel, wiping her hands and looking at him. She thought about Snow White and Beauty and Little Red, and witches and wishes and worms, and mazes and monsters and fairy bites. She thought about pomegranates and gingerbread. She thought about each and every time she sat trapped across the table from him, and how she'd never dared suppose she wasn't the only prisoner in the room.
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[personal profile] fulselden 2010-10-10 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
[This is just to say] Wow, that Labyrinth fic (and I am not surprised there is such a thing!) is fantastic: I love food writing and it works so well there - thanks for the rec! Though it seemed as much Beauty and the Beast as Persephone to me, I must admit. Which is no bad thing.
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[personal profile] fulselden 2010-10-09 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, wow, that novel sounds completely golden - I mean, the story of Persephone is about her fading in and out of the living world, so I can absolutely see her as a figure threading her way in and out of history, with Hades hanging on every stitch. And the idea of Hades as a penny-dreadful-ish(?) Dark Stranger is fantastic - so much potential for playing with melodrama and the Victorian fetishism of death. And he'd work very well as a modern-day no-good-boyo, of course.

And it would work wonderfully in a (very) vaguely Orlando-ish way about history and Womanhood - and also as a YA book, because Persephone herself is I guess an example, perhaps the example, of the cost of youth and spring.

[Though, sidenote - I always think we need a term that says more about this kind of book than 'young adult' does - I know I always found it rather mealy mouthed when I was in the right age range because I was very intent on being a teenager, not a mini adult. And now it makes me feel aged! Plus, so much exciting stuff is happening under the YA rubric, it seems a pity to have such a specific label attached? But it is useful and I do feel I know just what it means, so, hmm.]

BUT ANYWAY, I would very much love to read this book!

And, oh man, you enjoy my 31_days stuff? *__* Thank you so much! That means a lot coming from you.
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[personal profile] fulselden 2010-10-10 01:51 pm (UTC)(link)
... Yes! That is almost exactly what I feel about YA! Which maybe leaves me with not a great deal to say, but, just, yes.

I feel like this is where all the stories went

Exactly – I mean, I love contemporary Literature-literature as well, deeply. But a lot of the people I like are often skating on the edge of writing essays or poetry or some combination of the two. Which is great, and its own thing. But it doesn’t give you a hit of story. And then there is all the stuff which is as you say schlock. (My personal bête noire: heart-wrenching family sagas with sepia photographs on the cover where everyone acts as though they’re stuck in a watercolour).

Or Romance, selden :o)

Ahahaha, oh man, you not only read my flaily meta but pointed out that my name is (pretentiously enough!) olde words. Heh! And, hm, thinking about it, I’m not sure that I ever entirely stopped reading YA stuff – I mean, nothing was ever going to stop me reading the next Diana Wynne Jones or Philip Pullman, even at my seventeen-year-old stroppiest. But I was put off a lot of good stuff that came out in the immediate wake of Harry Potter, I think. Although even back then I was very bullish about still reading children’s literature, so I’m not sure why the YA handle was such a hang-up for me!

But, yes, so much word when it comes to the way fantasy has just bled out across all of YA, to be randomly gory about things. I have an uneasy feeling that this has something to do, especially post-Twilight, with the idea that fantasy, or urban fantasy, is for girls (I mean, Steph Swainson writes fantasy and China Mieville writes SF? Really, publishing world??) and that YA is I imagine largely a girl’s market. But I can’t really bring myself to complain, because the queasiness when it comes to labelling Serious Authors as SF or fantasy is something that annoys me immensely. And as you say the fact that the shelves are just smaller probably has something to do with it!

I've been meaning to write THE NEW GREAT YA SCI FI

OH YES PLEASE. I mean, not to pressure you or anything, and I’m not sure I could choose that over Persephone, but yes, that is so very much needed and you would do it wonderfully.

Speaking of which – I make you jealous?! Oh my goodness, I found your lj and have been flipping back through your fic and it is gorgeous: I love your Jossverse pieces so much. That Angel character study! The Buffy/ Connor! The devastating Connor/Angel! I feel so odd commenting on old entries, but, yes, THOUGHTS. And also delight, because gorgeous is the right word. Also, if your housemate is [personal profile] my_daroga, then she does seem very awesome and I’m really flattered. Though, man, I have no idea what it is I’m doing! For reals, all this stuff is my first prose fiction since I was made to do it in school, so I’m just sort of boggling and hoping it doesn’t stop. Also: learning curve. Not that this means I would ever mind concrit, I say hastily!

ETA: aaaand, [personal profile] quinara's comment reminds me that I should confess to having just written Persephone/Eurydice (OF SORTS) on the Bechdel test comment fic thread that's been going around. I really hope you don't mind me linking your story - I just thought it would be very unfair of me not to nod to it given that it was buzzing around in my head at the time, although possibly not to obvious effect!

Edited 2010-10-10 16:13 (UTC)
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[personal profile] rainkatt 2010-10-10 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
I want to read this.

And--I don't know how you depressed me and made me smile, all at once with this fic, but you did. Love it.
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[personal profile] stultiloquentia 2010-10-09 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Persephone professed disinterest (Eurydice was not the first to run away from home), until Orpheus followed to disinter her.

Wow.

Orpheus’s eyes were the color of Hades’s brothers’ houses.

Another great line.

He let Orpheus go up with but one command, the thing that his wife had told him about going forward.

And I like this.

What a grim little tale. I started to rail at the last line, and say, "No! No we don't! We hold onto passion until our dying breaths!" and then I went, "....oh, right."

Ash makes good fertilizer?
Edited 2010-10-09 18:06 (UTC)
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[personal profile] quinara 2010-10-10 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh, [personal profile] fulselden recced this to me and I have to say that I love it! Especially how Hades is that little bit childish as well - there's the slightest sense of him and Persephone playacting king and queen, despite being 'grown up', which is really cool.
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[personal profile] my_daroga 2010-10-12 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
This is beautiful. I've read it twice, and I'm sure I'm not getting everything, but there's so much here. "Growing up" seems to be the same as dying, as not going forward.

You should write that novel.

[identity profile] samsom.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
This was beautiful. God, your language is like poetry and song. I love the imagery, of youthful, bright Persephone turning into the pale queen with the bramble nails.

Awesome, awesome. If you have more, I will be so happy to read it.
Edited 2010-10-09 03:23 (UTC)
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I've always wanted to write a novel-length version of the Persephone myth. Maybe I'll try it ;o)

[identity profile] samsom.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
I hope you do! I've never really read a satisfying take on the myth, one that would do it justice, but with language like this -

Winter came and laid its blanket down. Six seeds within her pulled her underground, with stones.

I think you might be the one. :D
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[personal profile] lynnenne 2010-10-09 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
OH! This is gorgeous and so sad.

Persephone professed disinterest (Eurydice was not the first to run away from home), until Orpheus followed to disinter her.

That's one of the cleverest play on words I've read in ages.

Orpheus’s eyes were the color of Hades’s brothers’ houses.

Oh, very nice.

I always felt so sorry for Persephone - she seemed resigned to such a dreary fate. Lovely story.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks!

hahahaha. I think the word play in that sentence was WAY too much, but once I thought of it I couldn't kill my darling.

My favorite book of poetry ever is called Mother Love, by Rita Dove. All the poems are about the Persephone abduction story, and there's an interesting duality Dove brings to Persephone: sometimes she's an innocent, abducted and raped. Sometimes she is a girl trying to explore herself and make choices independently of her mother--seduced by the bad boys, yes, but also maneuvering herself into a position in which she will one day rule.

[identity profile] leni-ba.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
Greek Mythology.

By you.

On Persephone.

Dear, this just made up for all the times I wished you continued 'Another One...'. I'd be c/p'ing the whole thing if I wanted to quote my favorites, but I loved the 'outgrowing' theme through it all, and how could I have forgotten that the only reason Hades allowed Orpheus a chance to leave with his wife was because Persephone asked? I clearly need to brush up my myths!

THANK YOU.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
Ahhhhhhhhh Another One Like It Tomorrow ahhhhhhh. Someday, leni.

I think in some versions of the myth, both Hades and Persephone are charmed by Orpheus's music, but I think mostly it is Persephone and she asks Hades to let Eurydice go. Which . . . well. The foursome potential kind of BLOWS MY MIND. What if Hades is jealous of Orpheus? What if Persephone sorta has a crush on Orpheus? What if Persephone sees Eurydice as herself before, you know, things happened?

Anywho, thank you, and you're welcome.

[identity profile] leni-ba.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Someday, leni.

*wistful smile* A girl can hope. :)


The foursome potential kind of BLOWS MY MIND

It never crossed mine, but sweetie. Run with the idea. New versions of Greek mythology are always good, and if you're writing it I'm sure it'll be gorgeus. Myself, for some reason, I've always felt bad for Hades. Gods are always so rash and temperamental, of course he'd kidnap her. But once she eats the fruit, he's as stuck with her as she is stuck in his realm - and here's the rub, he still loves her through it all.

Yeah... I was loving the bad boys when I was seven. Probably wasn't the appropiate age to be reading Greek myths, either... but when would that be? Olympus is your regular XXX fiction work, tsk.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2010-10-09 06:16 am (UTC)(link)
I feel sorry for Hades, but mostly because he got the shit end of the stick when it came to drawing lots. Zeus got the sky and OH YEAH ALL THE GODS, Poseidon gets the sea, and Hades gets bum bum bum the dead. Oh yeah, and doesn't get counted among the Olympians, really. I like to think he has SEVERE fraternal issues.

I also like to think he'd didn't abduct Persephone because he was rash, but because he's a cold, selfish, calculating bastard who believes he deserves just one drop of sunshine in his dark and lonely world. But then when he finally has her, he thinks he doesn't deserve her . . . he's just too weak to give her up. I never saw him as stuck with her, though I suppose that depends on how the eating the seeds thing works.

But although I feel sorry for him, the general idea is that he rapes Persephone and keeps her prisoner while she starves herself to death, sooooo . . . I guess in the end I feel more sorry for her ;o)

Yeah, Olympus is fucking twisted. I mean, Hades is Persephone's uncle!

And thank you for your kind compliments :o)