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It's Lion Turtles all the way down ([personal profile] lettered) wrote2009-01-17 02:27 pm

Pimp and ships

-Angel/Spike ficathon: [livejournal.com profile] grazieprego. It's been decided Buffyverse is retro enough to be cool again. Throw your hat in; it's going to be amazing. The awesomesauciest of writers are doing it! Except for you, you're not, so why are you still here? Even if you don't sail that ship, you're welcome to write their canon selves--there was enough subtext (sometimes text) there to canonball a ship, get it? Wait that metaphor does not make sense. It can involve other ships and people as long as there is Angel/Spike. Just do it; I love it.

-Speaking of ships and canon I don't understand myself. I really don't. I, in fact, stopped understanding myself the moment [livejournal.com profile] fodian began to show me pictures like this:

I seriously regard that as my downfall, because that was the first thing I was attracted to (uh, in a sexy way) something that didn't fall along what I'm usually attracted to. And then it turned into 'ships--Spike/Connor, of all things, and Angel/Connor, and there was that weird two months where I lived and breathed Angel/Spike. But then it REALLY went downhill because there was Draco/Harry, which I understand even less. And then out of left field there was Commissioner Gordon/Bruce Wayne, don't even ask. And now it's Godfather. No, seriously. WTF, brain? There are only even like 2 Godfather slashers on the whole planet (both of them rock, btw, and have awesome hot fic. [livejournal.com profile] hollycomb and [livejournal.com profile] igbc).

-On that note, I have meme: Ask me a fandom-related question, anything related to fandom, and I will try to answer. Ships, het, slash, wank, wars, posting, TV, books, movies, comics, fanon, canon, whatever.

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I think "shipped in a serious way" means I have went out and searched for fic about them, or tried to write it. I tried to put them in the order I got interested in them, but sometimes the interest resurges again later. Best ships are like that. *nods*

Anne Shirley/Gilbert Blythe - Anne of Green Gables
Scarlett O'Hara/Rhett Butler - Gone With The Wind
Maria/Captain Von Trapp - Sound of Music
Martitia/Jonathan Gardner - They Loved To Laugh, by Kathyrn Worth
Christy Huddleston/Doctor MacNeill - Christy, by Catherine Marshall
Beauty/Beast - fairy tale, Disney, Beauty, by Robin McKinley, and the 80s TV show
Corlath/Harry - The Blue Sword, by Robin McKinley
Lissar/Ossin - Deerskin, by Robin McKinley
Elisa Maza/Goliath - Disney's Gargoyles
Lucy/Jack Callaghan - While You Were Sleeping
Talia/Dirk - Arrows trilogy by Mercedes Lackey
Jane Eyre/Edward Rochester - Jane Eyre, by Charlotte Bronte
Wolf/Virginia - 10th Kingdom (mini-series)
Marianne Dashwood/Colonel Brandon - Sense and Sensibility, by Jane Austen
Emma Woodhouse/Mr. Knightley - Emma, by Jane Austen
Elizabeth Bennet/Mr. Darcy - Pride and Prejudice, by Jane Austen
Severus Snape/Hermione - Harry Potter, by JK Rowling
Wolverine/Rogue - X-men (movie version)
Jane Goodale/Eddy Alden - Someone Like You (I hated that movie. Which is perhaps why I wrote fic for it . . .)
Lorelai/Luke - Gilmore Girls
Rory/Jesse - Gilmore Girls
Sidney Bristow/Eric Weiss - Alias
Eric Weiss/Nadia - Alias
Erik/Christine - Phantom of the Opera
Hades/Persephone - Greek myth
Danielle/Henry - Ever After
Buffy/Angel - Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Buffy/Faith - Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Buffy/Angel/Faith - Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Angel/Wesley - Angel
Buffy/Giles - Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Buffy/Dawn - Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Angel/Spike - Angel
Angel/Spike/Buffy - Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Angel/Connor - Angel
Spike/Connor - Angel
Connor/Wesley - Angel
Spike/Dawn - Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Horatio Hornblower/Lt. William Bush - Horatio Hornblower (adaptation)
Mal/River - Firefly
Erik/Raoul - Phantom of the Opera
Erik/the Persian - Phantom of the Opera
Boomer/Chief - Battlestar Galactica
Chief/Cally - Battlestar Galactica
Felix Gaeta/Gaius Baltar - Battlestar Galactica
Gregory House/James Wilson - House M.D.
Cameron/Chase - House M.D.
Jim Halpert/Pam Beesley - The Office
Severus Snape/Harry Potter - Harry Potter
Harry Potter/Draco Malfoy - Harry Potter
Lucius Malfoy/Draco Malfoy - Harry Potter
Margaret Hale/John Thornton - North and South (adaptation)
Commissioner Gordon/Bruce Wayne - (mostly Nolan's) Batman
Michael Corleone/Tom Hagen - The Godfather

...ok I'm done.
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[identity profile] raz0rgirl.livejournal.com 2009-01-17 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Ships aren't to be explained. They're to be enjoyed ;-)

Have you written any Baltar/Gaeta?
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2009-01-17 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't, but oh boy oh boy do I wish there was some.

Gaeta is my favorite character. I dunno why, as I tend to love main characters, and am not always as attentive as I should be to secondary and tertiary characters. But for some reason I loved and paid attention to Gaeta right from the beginning.

I'm not in love with Baltar, though I must say I am in love with how despicable he is. But they have a serious thing going on. There was that part where Gaeta came to visit Baltar in his cell, and tried to kill him with a pen. That was right after Baltar whispered something to him, and I honestly believe Baltar whispered something about how he knew Felix would get on his knees and suck his cock if he asked. And Gaeta attacked him because it was true. *nods*

OMG I'm babbling. Partly though I feel the BSG world is so complex; I am intimidated to write in it.
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[identity profile] raz0rgirl.livejournal.com 2009-01-17 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I think a lot of us think that whisper was some variation on the theme you mention. My personal theory is that Baltar and Gaeta has something going on New Caprica before the Cylon takeover and Baltar broke his heart. Mostly because anything between them would be more important to Gaeta than to Baltar. Then Baltar *really* broke his heart by capitulating to the cylon occupiers.

Also, [livejournal.com profile] baltar_gaeta.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2009-01-17 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
EEP. Cool. I join comm now.

YAY I'm so glad other people theorized about the whisper! It seemed like one of those things, where all the people who thought the ship was possible would've totally taken it in a shippy way and everyone would have written their own fic about what was said. But I never found anyone else who shipped them, or anyone to talk about it with.

Baltar and Gaeta has something going on New Caprica before the Cylon takeover and Baltar broke his heart

Sometimes I think that too. Mostly I think it was unrequited on Gaeta's side, but Baltar knew it, and used it to his advantage. Possibly even physically. But I think Gaeta really believed in Baltar, really really believed in him. I think he did from the beginning, more than almost anyone else. And then, yeah, with the Cylon occupation, that faith just crumbled. And that was one reason I loved so much Gaeta being the informant, because he was betraying someone he still loved, but that person he loved and betrayed him . . . OMG.

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[identity profile] raz0rgirl.livejournal.com 2009-01-18 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Oh! I'm finally watching the "Face of the Enemy" Webisodes (I got tired of being strung along so I waited until they were all out and didn't go back until now). Episode 9 reveals what Baltar said!

http://www.scifi.com/rewind/?sid=870861

You can search for them on YouTube if you have problems with the SciFi channel player.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2009-01-18 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
omg omg omg omg omfg

The part of me that is sad he didn't say anything about cocksucking is overwhelmed by omg. I need to watch these; I didn't know they were all out. omg. omg.

oh em gee.

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[identity profile] noelia-g.livejournal.com 2009-01-17 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, there's so many ships on this list that I had been into, at one time or the other. And I think Anne/Gilbert was my first ship ever, too. Certainly Gilbert was my first literary crush.

I might have kind of, sort of, shipped Britta and Lasse from Astrid Lindgren's novel around the same time, too.

(Which would be when I was five, when I got these books.)


Also, I kind of get the WTFery of finding myself shipping something I've never expected to ship, but mostly, I get the OMGness of retro-explanation of why I shipped something, or liked a certain character, when I trace it back to my issues. It's kind of scary ;D

And now I see the slash in the Godfather. Damn. Another thing the Internet ruined me for. Yay.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2009-01-17 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
You keep freaking me out with interests we have in common. You have a N&S icon! OMG yay!

Never much got into Lindgren. You make me wonder whether I should have!

For a while (before Buffy) there were ships I was surprised I got into, but they followed a certain pattern. Now sometimes I have explanations for my ships, but it's not consistent with anything that came before. It makes me feel like I'm really changing as a person somehow, which would be fine, except I don't think I am.

I wish to god there was more Godfather slash. So recently this Robert DeNiro and Al Pacino film came out on DvD, I guess, and there's an ad for it at my grocery store. And every time I walk in and see Pacino's face, I'm like, "Oh Michael, you've gotten so old; it makes me sad." And then I think, "Tom Hagen would still find you hot." And then I think wtf, you know, because I came to buy some damn cheese!
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[identity profile] noelia-g.livejournal.com 2009-01-17 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
*I* am freaking you out? You started with the ships ;P

I've read pretty much everything of Lindgren, but only loved the Bullerbyn kids, and Ronja. Bullerbyn was sweet and everything nice, while Ronja was wild and creepy and scary and I loved it with a great passion. I practically swallowed books when I was a kid, from the age of four, and some I remember and some I don't, but Ronja still freaks me out, in a very good way.

I still have patterns in my ships, and the characters I love, but they come in a greater variety now. Although I'm still bound to love certain kinds of characters and relationships, indeed I'm very predictable in this.

I keep talking to all the Batman DVD posters, so you know, it's not that uncommon. Or maybe we both just need help, I'm not entirely sure.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2009-01-17 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I keep talking to all the Batman DVD posters

HEE. I am not alone!

I'll put Ronja on my list. Sounds great!

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[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2009-01-17 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Fod did the same thing to me.

So really, IT IS ALL FOD'S FAULT is my mantra.

OTOH, I'm grateful. So there is that. *hands*

Thanks for pimping the 'thon!
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[personal profile] lynnenne 2009-01-17 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I blame her and [livejournal.com profile] swmbo. I never thought Connor was hot until I started reading their posts. But then they were all, "BUT LOOK AT THOSE LIPS!" And I, um... had to agree with them.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2009-01-17 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
It's weird, because you think I would've found him hot watching him. But I think context is everything. In the shows you are not being asked to find him attractive (you are for Angel. You are not for Wesley--until he starts getting scruffy. You are for Lindsey). But Fod's posts and occasional picspams were all "This is attractive." and it made me scrunch my face and go, "yeah, he kinda is!"

I don't think you can take just anyone and do that, and I don't think just anyone can take even an appropriate person and make you feel that. It takes a certain sort of person being presented and a certain sort of presentation, but I think our ideas of what's attractive being subverted can happen more than most of us think. The combination of VK and Fod was a tour d'force!

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2009-01-18 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
The combination of VK and Fod was a tour d'force!

HEE. I will tell her you called her this.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2009-01-17 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm grateful too. Sometimes I wonder whether my interests would have continued following the same old patterns if not for her.

But [livejournal.com profile] my_daroga is awesome for twisting my head up, too.

I'm so excited about the ficathon, yes yes yes!

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2009-01-18 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, but Daroga took you away from fandoms I usually read in, SO I CANNOT THANK HER FOR THIS.

:P

Ficathon OMGYAY!

&hearts

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[personal profile] lynnenne 2009-01-17 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Felix Gaeta/Gaius Baltar

HOMG YES.

I would add:

Jack/John - Torchwood
Gwen/Owen - Torchwood
Sam/Diane - Cheers
Mason/Julia - Santa Barbara (The original Mason, played by Lane Davies, who used to quote Shakespeare in every other episode. Damn, I miss that soap.)
Brooke/Edmund - All My Children
Ryan/Gillian - All My Children. This one baffles me, because Gillian was an idiot. But they were beautiful, and I loved them like burning.
Jake/Greenlee - All My Children. I think I signed an online petition once to get them together. Yes, I was lame.
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[personal profile] lynnenne 2009-01-17 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
P.S. Thanks for reccing the ficathon! I'm so excited that you've signed up. <3
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2009-01-17 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
HOMG YES.

I wish there was some. I haven't found any. :o(

Shit, I forgot 10/Martha!

HEE! All My Children. I never watched that! I saw Femme talking about it recently too!

And as I said to Kita: am v. excited for the fest!
my_daroga: Mucha's "Dance" (anne/diana)

[personal profile] my_daroga 2009-01-18 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
I should make a list of my ships. But I don't know if I remember stuff well enough.

Also I wish I could/did write in BtVS. But I don't know why I do. Maybe I just don't feel I have anything to say.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2009-01-18 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder whether I should add Anne/Diana . . . I think Stoney wrote some, you know.

I would read anything you wrote (for anything, but also) for BtVS.
my_daroga: Mucha's "Dance" (spike)

[personal profile] my_daroga 2009-01-18 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm. See, I've enjoyed posts I've made as Buffy on the 'verse, but I've never come up with a story. There haven't been any "oh, I haven't see that!" moments for me. But it'd be novel to be involved with a larger fandom, if scary.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2009-01-18 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I would be interested in a list of your ships!

[identity profile] sarahtales.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Wolf and Virginia, yay! I even bought the abysmal tie-in book.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2009-01-21 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
I got it from the library, started it, but did not have the courage to get beyond the first couple pages.

I wasn't a fan of the mini-series itself, but I was of those two; I was surprised and pleased to learn it actually had a fan-base, tiny though it is. I think we are not alone . . .