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Questions Post #2

About a month ago I had a bunch of questions. A bunch of people answered them, which made me happy, because now I feel a lot less ignorant. But I still have a lot of questions about lj and fandom. Almost all of them are opinion questions, because I'm interested in general consensus. I'm not looking for anyone to form my opinion for me, but it's nice knowing what other people think, especially if there's some sort of group opinion (again, not that I'd be swayed by group opinion). For instance, the question about Holtz? I'd be so comforted if a large body of people could answer "no" to that question.

General

-Why didn’t we get to see a shirtless Angel holding baby Connor? Was that too much to ask?
-Does anyone at all love Kennedy?
-Why did they maul Charisma Carpenter’s hair, and did anyone like it short and blonde better than long gorgeous luxurious droolable enviable need-I-go-on brunette?
-Do most fics consider the movie canon? Does Whedon consider it canon for the show?
-Does anyone besides me feel guilty for not liking Doyle all that much?
-Can Angel (the character, not David Boreanaz) dance?
-Does James Marsters-as-William look like a young Captain-Picard-with-hair (or, more accurately: Patrick Stewart in I, Claudius) to anyone besides me?
-Are there any Wesley/Virginia fics out there?
-Is it wrong to think Holtz is dead sexy (especially his voice)? Am I alone in this feeling?
-How come male actors don’t have chest hair any more? Do people really think it’s unsexy? Why? And the point: so does David Boreanaz wax his chest or what?

Names/endearments/appellations

-What names/endearments can you actually see Angel using? (Would he call Buffy “sweetheart”? Would he call Cordy “my love”? Would he call Spike “lad”? Would he call Wesley “sex kitten”? et al)
-What about Buffy? (I know she calls Angel “honey” in an episode. Would she ever call him “hon”? Would she ever call Faith “precious”? Would she ever call Spike “daddy”?)
-Did Angelus ever once refer to his souled self as “soul boy”? (I know others did.)
-What’re your views on using the term “childe” in a fic?
-Am I the only one who’s uncomfortable calling actors by their first names when talking about them?
-What kinda name is Boreanaz?

Lj etiquette

-If you’ve just friended someone new you met on lj, do you comment when they post about their personal lives, or does that feel invasive to you before you get to know them better?
-Is it polite to friend someone without asking?
-Is anyone else nervous posting to a community without being invited to?
-Is it polite to rec someone without asking?
-Is having a paid account really worth it?
-Do you feel awkward weighing in with your opinion on the lj of someone you haven’t friended or don’t know that well? (not in reference to fic; everyone knows writers like comments from whomever they can get them ;o)

Smut

-You’re reading an epicky fic with an interesting plot. Does a really long sex scene right in the middle bore you? At what point, really, does gratuitous smut become gratuitous?
-Has Angel ever been the sub partner in a D/s relationship (in fic, I mean)?
-Wouldn’t it be kinda difficult for a human male to maintain an erection while being bitten and sucked on by a vampire? I gave blood (in hopes of helping hurricane refugees in my town, yay) today, and felt cold and limp like a noodle afterwards. Arousal? Difficult to conceive of. Then again, not a human male. What gives? Or doesn't give?

'k. That's all for now. Thanks.

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Too many questions make my response too long to post in one! Or maybe I'm just rambling on a little too much, but here's part one:

-Why didn’t we get to see a shirtless Angel holding baby Connor? Was that too much to ask?

I really don't know. Maybe he never had a reason to be shirtless while he was with Connor? But you'd think there'd be at least a few times where he'd be in the middle of getting dressed and Connor would start crying and he'd have to run... but no. Unfair. Have you seen the picture from DB's new movie where he's shirtless holding a baby? Is that what sparked this question? If not, you must.

-Does anyone at all love Kennedy?

I'm sure someone does. Not me though.

-Why did they maul Charisma Carpenter’s hair, and did anyone like it short and blonde better than long gorgeous luxurious droolable enviable need-I-go-on brunette?

I don't know! It just got worse and worse, didn't it? I hated it blonde. As long as she was brunette, I liked it whether it was long or short. She had great hair, once.

-Do most fics consider the movie canon? Does Whedon consider it canon for the show?

I haven't seen much mention of the movie, but I'll go with no. I think I've heard that the movie wasn't up to Whedon's vision. I have seen the movie, but it's been a long time so I don't really remember, but I'm pretty sure some things were contradicted as well. For instance, Buffy was a senior in the movie, but moved to Sunnydale as a sophomore.

-Does anyone besides me feel guilty for not liking Doyle all that much?

Well, I do like him, so I have nothing to feel guilty for. But it's okay to not like certain characters, and he wasn't around long, so I'd say there's no necessity for guilt.

-Can Angel (the character, not David Boreanaz) dance?

No. Hell no. You've seen "She", right? I know that was a phantasy sequence, but wow. He can slow dance though.

-Does James Marsters-as-William look like a young Captain-Picard-with-hair (or, more accurately: Patrick Stewart in I, Claudius) to anyone besides me?

I don't really see it, but hee!

-Are there any Wesley/Virginia fics out there?

Probably, but I haven't seen any.

-Is it wrong to think Holtz is dead sexy (especially his voice)? Am I alone in this feeling?

No. He's not personally my type, but I can see what's sexy about him. Especially in his voice. That was some voice.

-How come male actors don’t have chest hair any more? Do people really think it’s unsexy? Why? And the point: so does David Boreanaz wax his chest or what?

Well, I personally am not the biggest fan of chest hair, so I won't say any more on this matter. I'm thankful, no matter the reason.

-What names/endearments can you actually see Angel using? (Would he call Buffy “sweetheart”? Would he call Cordy “my love”? Would he call Spike “lad”? Would he call Wesley “sex kitten”? et al)

I've seen him use a lot in fics, but most of them make me twitchy. He never used any on the show, did he? So I can't really picture any. But I'm sure in the heat of the moment something similar to "my love" or "sex-kitten" could come out...

-What about Buffy? (I know she calls Angel “honey” in an episode. Would she ever call him “hon”? Would she ever call Faith “precious”? Would she ever call Spike “daddy”?)

I can see her using "honey" and "sweetheart" but that's about it of those suggestions.

-Did Angelus ever once refer to his souled self as “soul boy”? (I know others did.)

I'm almost sure he did, but I can't remember a time, so I wouldn't trust that. My memory may be influenced by fanon.

And part two. Wow, it really does look huge when posted. I wish there was some sort of lj-cut for comments...

-What’re your views on using the term “childe” in a fic?

In descriptions, if you must, but I wouldn't have them use it in dialogue.

-Am I the only one who’s uncomfortable calling actors by their first names when talking about them?

Depends on the actor. Actually, I think I do it a lot, more so with more famous or talked about actors. Like Brad and Jen.

-What kinda name is Boreanaz?

I won't guess for fear of sounding ignorant, but I really have no idea.

-If you’ve just friended someone new you met on lj, do you comment when they post about their personal lives, or does that feel invasive to you before you get to know them better?

I feel weird about it, particularly if the main reason to friend them is to read their fic, but I would anyway if something came up that I have a strong opinion on. I've often wondered where others stand on this.

-Is it polite to friend someone without asking?

I don't like doing it, and I think it's a little weird when it's happened to me, but I don't think it's that frowned upon. Most people who are concerned have some sort of "friending policy" in their user info.

-Is anyone else nervous posting to a community without being invited to?

No. I came on LJ without knowing anyone, and I wouldn't have communicated at all if I hadn't taken that step. Communities are for anyone interested, unless they're explicitly closed communities.

-Is it polite to rec someone without asking?

I see people asking a lot, but I don't see why it would ever be a problem. The thing I think is weird is when people rec without sending feedback, but apparently a lot of people do that too.

-Is having a paid account really worth it?

I used to think no, but I'm seriously considering getting one. Mainly because I've gotten more into post-relevant icons and it's annoying to keep switching them. I also think it would be fun to customize the look of the lj some, and it's not that expensive, but it's really up to you and what you value.

-Do you feel awkward weighing in with your opinion on the lj of someone you haven’t friended or don’t know that well? (not in reference to fic; everyone knows writers like comments from whomever they can get them ;o)

Yes, and I always feel like when I really want to offer my opinion, I ought to say how I was referred to the post, because I feel weird thinking I look like I just wandered in or have stalker tendencies...

-You’re reading an epicky fic with an interesting plot. Does a really long sex scene right in the middle bore you? At what point, really, does gratuitous smut become gratuitous?

No, unless it's really really long or uses the same conventions I've read a thousand times before. If it feels like it's stuck in just to have smut and not because it's relevant to the plot, then it feels gratuitous, but sometimes it's hard to determine what's relevant.

-Has Angel ever been the sub partner in a D/s relationship (in fic, I mean)?

I'm sure, but I can't think of any off the top of my head. Sorry!

-Wouldn’t it be kinda difficult for a human male to maintain an erection while being bitten and sucked on by a vampire? I gave blood (in hopes of helping hurricane refugees in my town, yay) today, and felt cold and limp like a noodle afterwards. Arousal? Difficult to conceive of. Then again, not a human male. What gives? Or doesn't give?

That I can't explain. Maybe if it's just a little suckage?

Wow, that was actually a lot of questions ;) Do you have your own opinions on any of them, since a lot are opinion-based? I'm curious about what others think about some of those too. Also hoping for recs for Angel-as-sub-partner fics. I may memory this post...

Also too long to proofread before posting. "phantasy"? Wow. I need sleep.

Hee! You have fun questions.

-Why didn’t we get to see a shirtless Angel holding baby Connor? *sob*
-Does anyone at all love Kennedy? I don't mind the concept of Kennedy, but the actor made dismal choices. And I weep for the Tara returns plot that Amber Benson foiled by refusing to come back.
-Why did they maul Charisma Carpenter’s hair Apparently it took too much time on set to style. *sob*
-Can Angel (the character, not David Boreanaz) dance? Ooh, tricky. I wonder what others will say. DB has phenomenal physical intelligence, and he lends it to Angel. So I'd say yes. Except Angel *does* get self-conscious, and he's way more endearing when he is.
-How come male actors don’t have chest hair any more? Do people really think it’s unsexy? Why? I like chest hair! But it's when they start trimming their armpits that I really can't take them seriously anymore.

Names/endearments/appellations

-What’re your views on using the term “childe” in a fic? Personally? Bleurgh. But I bet different vamps have different vocab. How about "vamplets"?
-Am I the only one who’s uncomfortable calling actors by their first names when talking about them? No. I tend to use surnames or initials.

Lj etiqu

-If you’ve just friended someone new you met on lj, do you comment when they post about their personal lives Depends on the content, I guess, not to mention my free time. I do start commenting *more* as I get to know them.
-Is it polite to friend someone without asking? I think so. I usually tack an, "I like you. Friending now," onto a comment just to be, well, friendly, but not always.
-Is anyone else nervous posting to a community without being invited to? Heck, no.
-Is it polite to rec someone without asking? Sure, who doesn't want to be recced? If they're unlikely to find it themselves, I let them know I've recced them, because who doesn't like to go and look and gloat?
-Is having a paid account really worth it? Not for the dabbly stuff I do. I'm thrifty.
-Do you feel awkward weighing in with your opinion on the lj of someone you haven’t friended or don’t know that well? Nah, not on fannish matters. I'm not shy. I don't *think* anyone's looked at me funny. How else am I supposed to get to know people and decide if I *want* to friend them?

Smut

-You’re reading an epicky fic with an interesting plot. Does a really long sex scene right in the middle bore you? At what point, really, does gratuitous smut become gratuitous? Smut has to be there for a reason. Even in a PWP, I want to learn something about the characters. (But *do* find a way to work that in!)
-Has Angel ever been the sub partner in a D/s relationship (in fic, I mean)? Wes/Angel probably has some. He'd be sub for Darla. I *love* it when he bottoms, even if it's a temporary respite.
-Wouldn’t it be kinda difficult for a human male to maintain an erection while being bitten and sucked on by a vampire? Snort.

Have you seen the picture from DB's new movie where he's shirtless holding a baby? Is that what sparked this question? If not, you must.

No. I had no idea such pictures existed. Feed me links. NOW! *flails*

Shirtless men holding naked babies is the hottest thing ever. If the man is, you know, hot. I don't know where I got that kink, but there it is.

*off to search for pics*

http://www.whedon.info/article.php3?id_article=8735&img=david-boreanaz-these-girls-movie-promo-mq-01.jpg

http://www.whedon.info/article.php3?id_article=11114

;)

Thank you. If only that was Connor. It doesn't matter. I'm still going to die happy, now.

Maybe you're a closet Phantom of the Opera phan.

General
-Why didn’t we get to see a shirtless Angel holding baby Connor? Was that too much to ask?

As you have already been linked to the shirtless Daddy!Boreanaz movie photo, I shall just smile at you, and wish that he could have been shirtless holding grown up Connor too.

-Does anyone at all love Kennedy?

No one I know.

-Why did they maul Charisma Carpenter’s hair, and did anyone like it short and blonde better than long gorgeous luxurious droolable enviable need-I-go-on brunette?

Because Angel only fucks blondes.

-Do most fics consider the movie canon? Does Whedon consider it canon for the show?

Whedon did the series because he hated how the movie came out.

-Does anyone besides me feel guilty for not liking Doyle all that much?

I loved Doyle. But I think the character's death was great for the series.

-Can Angel (the character, not David Boreanaz) dance?

Have you been under a rock, babe?

-Does James Marsters-as-William look like a young Captain-Picard-with-hair (or, more accurately: Patrick Stewart in I, Claudius) to anyone besides me?

I think he just looks vaguely mentally retarded.

-Is it wrong to think Holtz is dead sexy (especially his voice)? Am I alone in this feeling?

ros_fod thinks he's sexy. He overacts too much for me to get past that. I keep waiting for him to burst into song.

-How come male actors don’t have chest hair any more? Do people really think it’s unsexy? Why? And the point: so does David Boreanaz wax his chest or what?

I love and miss chest hair on men. Dave waxes. So does Marsters.

Names/endearments/appellations
-What names/endearments can you actually see Angel using? (Would he call Buffy “sweetheart”? Would he call Cordy “my love”? Would he call Spike “lad”? Would he call Wesley “sex kitten”? et al)

Yes. Yes. Yes when soulless and Irish, no.

-What about Buffy? (I know she calls Angel “honey” in an episode. Would she ever call him “hon”? Would she ever call Faith “precious”? Would she ever call Spike “daddy”?)

No. No. God, no.

-Did Angelus ever once refer to his souled self as “soul boy”? (I know others did.)

Gimme a few days, I'll find you the source.

-What’re your views on using the term “childe” in a fic?

Oh dear. This one again. Can I refer you to the essay on StA by Peasant?

-Am I the only one who’s uncomfortable calling actors by their first names when talking about them?

No. Hence the trend of using initials.

-What kinda name is Boreanaz?

It's Italian. He's half-Irish.

Lj etiquette
-If you’ve just friended someone new you met on lj, do you comment when they post about their personal lives, or does that feel invasive to you before you get to know them better?

If they let me read it I feel free to comment on it.

-Is it polite to friend someone without asking?

It's fine to friend people. Less fine to demand they friend you back.

-Is anyone else nervous posting to a community without being invited to?

Hunh. I am so not shy girl. I plead the fifth.

-Is it polite to rec someone without asking?

Writers are whores. Rec them.

-Is having a paid account really worth it?

Yes, for the many icons and customized layouts.

-Do you feel awkward weighing in with your opinion on the lj of someone you haven’t friended or don’t know that well? (not in reference to fic; everyone knows writers like comments from whomever they can get them ;o)

Again with the 'I'm a pushy bitca, consult elsewhere', sorry.

Smut
-You’re reading an epicky fic with an interesting plot. Does a really long sex scene right in the middle bore you? At what point, really, does gratuitous smut become gratuitous?

If it's not well written. If sex doesn't turn me on *or* serve to further the plot.

-Has Angel ever been the sub partner in a D/s relationship (in fic, I mean)?

Yes. Often for Darla, sometimes for Buffy, occasionally for Wes. There's S/A fic where he subs, but I personally find it OOC and don't tend to read, let alone archive that. Check around StA if you're interested in fic where he subs. I also tend to draw a line between bottoming and subbing- Angel would bottom easily, he's a masochist and he thinks he deserves punishment. So he'd let his lover hurt him. I just can't see him calling anyone "Sir" while they did it. Except for Buffy, who I think he would crawl naked over bottlecaps for, and call anything she damn well asked him.

-Wouldn’t it be kinda difficult for a human male to maintain an erection while being bitten and sucked on by a vampire? I gave blood (in hopes of helping hurricane refugees in my town, yay) today, and felt cold and limp like a noodle afterwards. Arousal? Difficult to conceive of. Then again, not a human male. What gives? Or doesn't give?

Pain isn't conducive to hard ons in most human males, with the obvious exception of S&M play. I'm sure with conditioning, a human could learn to get off on being bitten. And certainly, Buffy got off on it when Angel bit her in S3. I think this is one of those fanon-canon blurry boundary things, which good writers can carry off, and bad writers tend to over do.

You ask the coolest questions. :}

I haven't seen much mention of the movie, but I'll go with no. I think I've heard that the movie wasn't up to Whedon's vision. I have seen the movie, but it's been a long time so I don't really remember, but I'm pretty sure some things were contradicted as well. For instance, Buffy was a senior in the movie, but moved to Sunnydale as a sophomore.

Yes, there're several things contradicted, Buffy's age being the main one. (How Buffy is Called is another big one). But when I started watching the show, I was confused, because Buffy was already the Slayer, already knew there were vamps, etc etc. It wasn't until much later that I realized there was a movie, and I still haven't decided what elements of the movie I envision carrying over into the world of the show.

No. Hell no. You've seen "She", right? I know that was a phantasy sequence, but wow. He can slow dance though.

Yes, I've seen the spaz dance. I laughed so hard chuckles came out my nose. I asked because I seem to remember him slow dancing on several different occasions. Voluntarily. Sometimes I wonder if the spaz dance was his self-concious projection of...I don't know, what other people might see, if he actually let loose.

No. He's not personally my type, but I can see what's sexy about him. Especially in his voice. That was some voice.

The actor's so much more my type than DB, except DB is of a size that appeals to me more. Keith Szarabajka is old unhandsome, and oddly charismatic imo, which is what I tend to go for. It always surprises me how hot I find DB, because he's so...not what I go for.

I've seen him use a lot in fics, but most of them make me twitchy. He never used any on the show, did he? So I can't really picture any.

The closest he came was "lover" for Buffy when he was Angelus. Most of them make me twitchy too. I'm still trying to figure out whether he'd use any and if so, what he'd use.

First off? Beats me. Because why in god's heaven..why not?! It seems to be a sin not to *g*

- Kennedy is meh. Don't hate her, but don't like her much either.
General
- No, dislike Corduffy. Lopped off and dyed blonde? Buffied much?
- movie isn't canon, not to Joss at least.
- Erm..no he can't dance he can't sing.
- Don't think about JM much at all..and I was never into ST.
- Dunno, only read B/A :P
- Nope.
- Don't care, whatever they're doing keep it up. Hairyness is gross to me. I'll help David wax his chest aaanyday. But he doesn't seem like a very hairy guy, which is odd for a half Italian, half Czech right?

Names/endearments/appellations
- He'd call Buffy, sweetheart, babe, love AND sex kitten *G* (I'm not a slasher..especially if it involves Spangel *shudder*)
- She'd call Angel, honey so I'm assuming all of the above as well. She'd call Faith "F" LOL. And Spike? She'd call convenient :P
- I don't think he ever called his better half that.
- I hate the terme "childe" it's useless, lame and cliche.
- Nope, I'm a geek, and I fantasize about David being my lovah.
- As stated before, he's half Italian/Half Czech. As far as I know "Boreanaz" is Italian - he had mentioned his unusual Italian name before.

LJ Etiquette
- In my personal experience, only comment if you can. Say they're talking abotu something that you've had a similar experience too. But i'm not to be taken seriously 99.9% of the time so I offer idiotic "advice". Or if the occasion calls, say Happy Birthday! Or good luck. Something generic like that, then you can start getting to know them better.
- I wouldn't say it's impolite too. But for example in my case, if it states in my info to comment if you're friending me, and I'll most probably friend you back, goes to show me you're not all that interested in me if you couldn't even take the time to read my info. I also clearly state that if you're there for my icons, no need for friending because they're posted publicly. I don't friend back unless a) you've commented and/or b)I know you from any of the communities I run, and we have enough in common.
- Depends what the community is for, if in my case, icons in an icon posting community or in

bashippers, definitely not. Essentially, no, the mods would LOVE to see activity in their communities, so long as you're not breaking any rules.
- Well, not sure why you'd rec someone, out of the blue, but sure, it's not impolite.
- That depends what you're using paid for, it's not all that expensive, but for someone into graphics like me, it's worth it, for icons, doing layouts etc. But you don't necessarily need to, you could try it out for 2 months for only 5 dollars.
- Well, I wouldn't comment on their post, because I wouldn't be randomly searching someone's LJ if they aren't on my flist. And of course, iconers, fic writers etc, welcome comments. So yes, I'd feel uncomfortable, I don't do it.

Smut
- Depends on..like the dirty talk or whatever, as I only read B/A fic(smut), I just roll my eyes or if one of them says something completely out of character, and out of context. I mean if the fic is about BDSM etc and it's very dark, you're going to expect something like that. And I think excessively long sex scenes are boring anyway. I don't need to know exactly how long they've done it etc etc. Oh, and excessively being horney and having sex like.. in a broom closet because they haven't had sex in all o f 2 seconds is annoying. Uncontrollable horneyness can get uninteresting.
-Yes, can't pick out exactly what or when, but I've seen it (I hate Buffy being a completely dom, because IMO it's OOC)
- LOL. Erm..I have no idea, what if said male is REALLY turned on by bloodsucking/blood loss? Some men are turned on my very very odd things.

oh and I forgot, no need to feel guilty about not liking a character, I know I don't. The characters are what they are, you can love them or hate them.

I've become uber bitter about a lot of things that happened later in the verse, and I'm not ashamed to say it..because HUZZAH! I have an opinion!

Except for Buffy, who I think he would crawl naked over bottlecaps for, and call anything she damn well asked him.

*snort*

Damn straight.

The thing I think is weird is when people rec without sending feedback, but apparently a lot of people do that too.

That is weird. And a shame, imo.

Mainly because I've gotten more into post-relevant icons and it's annoying to keep switching them. I also think it would be fun to customize the look of the lj some,

So that's what you get? Icons and customization? Hmm. My problem is that my father drilled into me the idea that paying any regular fee for anything is Evil, and difficult to get out of. Also, I pretty much like sticking with one icon--it's a recognition thing. But I love it when other people have millions of icons--I've seen some people have whole conversations just using their icons, and some of them are just so frickin' funny.

Do you have your own opinions on any of them, since a lot are opinion-based?

I'm sure with some my opinion is obvious (as with the Holtz question ;o), but on most of them I can't decide or I'm on the fence, which is why I ask. For instance, I've been going back and forth about what B & A would call each other ever since I started reading B/A fic. At one time I quite liked both "lass" and "baby" for Buffy from Angel, but now I'm very tired of both. In fact, I've thought about it so much that now they're kinda making me ill.

But I do have opinions about these things:

-What’re your views on using the term “childe” in a fic?

The idea of Darla calling Angel "childe"--as in, "come here, childe" is ludicrous, imo. The idea of her saying, "Angel is my childe because I Sired him," however, produces a meh in me. The idea of Buffy saying "Angel is Darla's childe because she Sired him" however, is perfectly alright with me. In fact, I like it, because there's no canon way for that relationship between Sire and ? to be expressed.

-If you’ve just friended someone new you met on lj, do you comment when they post about their personal lives, or does that feel invasive to you before you get to know them better?

I asked this because I can be painfully shy. Even if I really want to comment on a personal post, I almost always feel uncomfortable doing it. Sometimes I make myself, if I think the poster would benefit from what I have to say. Sometimes I make myself because I think the idea of being shy in these situations is illogical--if they put it out there for me to see, I should be able to comment. And yet, there are very few (or no) people on lj with whom I can comment about personal stuff without feeling at least some discomfort. The nice thing about the internet is it's all text, so I can edit and edit and no one can no how uncomfortable I really feel. As in now, for instance ;o) It's inconvenient, really, because there're plenty of people on lj who seem interesting who I'd like to know in a personal way, but what I want isn't at all supported to what I feel like when doing it. Bummer.

-Is anyone else nervous posting to a community without being invited to?

Yes. The one time I did it without someone who was already a member of the community suggesting I do it, I felt like I was intruding. I understand what you say about it being a free forum to meet people, but knowing that what I post gets spammed to EVERY member of that community freaks me. I am much more comfortable on message boards and the like; people only have to look at those if they want (but mailing lists are even worse).

-Do you feel awkward weighing in with your opinion on the lj of someone you haven’t friended or don’t know that well?

Again, painfully shy. Though what you say about mentioning how you got there might make me feel better.

Also hoping for recs for Angel-as-sub-partner fics.

Me too.

And I weep for the Tara returns plot that Amber Benson foiled by refusing to come back.

Do you mean in "Conversations With Dead People"?

Ooh, tricky. I wonder what others will say. DB has phenomenal physical intelligence, and he lends it to Angel. So I'd say yes. Except Angel *does* get self-conscious, and he's way more endearing when he is.

Sometimes I just plain get confused by Angel's "physical intelligence." Sometimes he moves really smoothly, but sometimes he's clumsy. I could understand if the clumsy moments we're only at highly emotional times, but for instance: he trips coming through the window to Cordy's room with Fred in S4, when they need to get her blood to counteract Jasmine. No matter how nervy he's feeling just then, the Angel I know from every other situation would NEVER have made that much noise when being stealthy is so important. The reason I ask the dance question is he seems averse to dancing, and has a fantasy spaz dance in S1, but he slow dances with both Buffy and Darla and seems fine with it.

How about "vamplets"?

You're subversive. I can see it all now. Darla traipsing Europe followed by her train of vamplets arranged in descending size, like ducklings.

Crying tears of blood, here.

Wes/Angel probably has some.

Really! I'm most shocked.

wish that he could have been shirtless holding grown up Connor too.

I'll settle for wishing he held grown up Connor, period. I think he hugged him maybe once. The lack of touching made me antsy.

I think he just looks vaguely mentally retarded.

Since Patrick Stewart could never look even vaguely mentally retarded, that's got to be a no.

He overacts too much for me to get past that. I keep waiting for him to burst into song.

But it'd be a sexy song. Because of the rompworthy voice. It's funny you say that; I thought Keith Szarabajka was excellent. But again, that might be because I found him utterly lickable.

Gimme a few days, I'll find you the source.

Much thanks.

Oh dear. This one again. Can I refer you to the essay on StA by Peasant?

Yes, and again, thanks. I've enjoyed the essays I've read there so far; I either missed this one or just haven't gotten to it yet.

He's half-Irish.

Really? I never would've guessed; he doesn't at all look it. Even if has no contact with anyone actually from Ireland, this makes it harder for me to forgive him for his dismal brogue.

Do you mean in "Conversations With Dead People"?

Yeah, it would've started there. AB saw the script and rejected it, because she wanted her fans to remember her as a good guy. She didn't know that, mid-season, Joss planned an episode in which Buffy got one wish from the PTB for her service, one chance to change reality. She could have had her mother back, or Angel. She chose to bring back Tara.

he slow dances

I never met an idiot who couldn't slow dance.

You're subversive.

*g* Moi?

There's S/A fic where he subs, but I personally find it OOC and don't tend to read, let alone archive that. Check around StA if you're interested in fic where he subs.

Unless you're reading exclusively S/A there, which I have been doing--thus the lack of seeing Angel sub. Huh.

I also tend to draw a line between bottoming and subbing-

I believe most people do. In fact, there's an interesting article on it in Wikipedia. Why I would look up something like topping and bottoming on Wikipedia? Ask me not.

Except for Buffy, who I think he would crawl naked over bottlecaps for, and call anything she damn well asked him.

Thank you for that image.

And certainly, Buffy got off on it when Angel bit her in S3. I think this is one of those fanon-canon blurry boundary things

Yes, because while I can certainly understand people interpreting that scene in S3 as Buffy getting off on him biting her--and while I've wavered sometimes and occasionally believed it, while reading interpretations in various fic--I prefer to believe she's in serious pain and trying not to follow all her subconscious instincts and reflexes to kill him. The idea that Angel could get off on it when she's pretty much fatally suffering to me is more intriguing--I guess because I think it'd make him hate himself more. And I like Angel hating himself.

You ask the coolest questions. :}

You have the coolest answers. Because "he only fucks blondes"? That was my guess, too.

She didn't know that, mid-season, Joss planned an episode in which Buffy got one wish from the PTB for her service, one chance to change reality. She could have had her mother back, or Angel. She chose to bring back Tara.

Whoa. I had no idea. As much as I would've liked to have seen Tara again, though, I can't say for certain I would've liked this. Too many people come back to life for me to make it easy to swallow as it is. The whole "unnatural death" thing is the only thing that makes me able to swallow Buffy coming back to life.

I never met an idiot who couldn't slow dance.

You're talking to one. Even if it's standing and swaying? I trip.

Buffied much?

Bahaha!

But he doesn't seem like a very hairy guy, which is odd for a half Italian, half Czech right?

Czech? The ever-expanding nationalities of David Boreanaz. Anyway, many Italians are very unhairy, from what I understand. I don't know about Czechs.

But i'm not to be taken seriously 99.9% of the time so I offer idiotic "advice".

Ha, no, I'm just interested in how other people feel about it. Imo, there should be nothing wrong with commenting on a public post about private stuff, I'm just wired such that it makes me exceedingly uncomfortable doing it. I was just curious whether other people felt that way.

Well, I wouldn't comment on their post, because I wouldn't be randomly searching someone's LJ if they aren't on my flist.

The ways I get into other people's ljs who aren't on my flist is if they're mentioned on the su_herald, metafandom, or some other link-y community like that, or if a friend recs a discussion going on elsewhere. I've come across some very interesting conversations that way, but I do feel rather stalkerly when I do and so am reluctant to comment.

Uncontrollable hornyness can get uninteresting.

Especially because the characters I'm most interested in have vast amounts of self-control.

I've never felt guilty for not liking a character, in any fandom, except for this one, and only about Doyle. There are several other characters I dislike in Jossverse, but I feel free in my hatred for all of them, except Doyle.

I feel bad about disliking Doyle because Doyle died. I feel bad about disliking Doyle because Glenn Quinn died. I feel bad about disliking Doyle because I think Angel loved him. I think Angel loved him a lot. When you think about it, Doyle was the first male friend of his very own Angel ever made (possibly he had some as Liam, but I doubt those were the same kind of friendships). So Doyle was also the first friend Angel ever really lost (he gave up Buffy, who was arguably a friend, but I wouldn't say he "lost" her. Ever). I guess my problem is I think Doyle's character and his death makes both the story of the series and the character of Angel that much richer--except me not being able to really like Doyle makes me feel like I'm outside that richness, looking in. If that makes any sense, which it probably doesn't.

Ooh, very interesting questions.

-Why didn’t we get to see a shirtless Angel holding baby Connor? Was that too much to ask?
You've got the links to DB's new movie, so . . .
-Does anyone at all love Kennedy?
I've never seen anyone anywhere who does.
-Why did they maul Charisma Carpenter’s hair, and did anyone like it short and blonde better than long gorgeous luxurious droolable enviable need-I-go-on brunette?
I heard that they cut it to make her look more mature, but I have a theory that she asked her stylist to make her hair as horrible as possible, because I don't know why else they would butcher it that way.
-Do most fics consider the movie canon? Does Whedon consider it canon for the show?
Varies. I know I've seen the cramps-as-vamp-detector thing from the movie around, which wasn't used at all in the show. Personally I don't like it, but it won't make me stop reading a fic.
-Does anyone besides me feel guilty for not liking Doyle all that much?
I like Doyle, but I wouldn't feel guilty for not liking a character.
-Can Angel (the character, not David Boreanaz) dance?
I think I've only seen him slow dance twice, and one of those was in a dream, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for that. Otherwise? No, not at all.
-Does James Marsters-as-William look like a young Captain-Picard-with-hair (or, more accurately: Patrick Stewart in I, Claudius) to anyone besides me?
I don't see it, but hey :)
-Are there any Wesley/Virginia fics out there?
I'm sure there are somewhere, but I've never seen them.
-Is it wrong to think Holtz is dead sexy (especially his voice)? Am I alone in this feeling?
Not my type, but I can see how other people would like him.
-How come male actors don’t have chest hair any more? Do people really think it’s unsexy? Why? And the point: so does David Boreanaz wax his chest or what?
I'm pretty sure Xander has chest hair in any of his shirtless scenes.
Names/endearments/appellations

-What names/endearments can you actually see Angel using? (Would he call Buffy “sweetheart”? Would he call Cordy “my love”? Would he call Spike “lad”? Would he call Wesley “sex kitten”? et al)
When he was soulless he called Buffy "lover" and once "my love", but honestly I don't see him as the type to use endearments. For B/A, at any rate, they always said each other's names in a way that would make endearments superflous (okay, that sounds like something out of a really bad romance novel).
-What about Buffy? (I know she calls Angel “honey” in an episode. Would she ever call him “hon”? Would she ever call Faith “precious”? Would she ever call Spike “daddy”?)
No idea.
-Did Angelus ever once refer to his souled self as “soul boy”? (I know others did.)
I don't think so, but I haven't seen all of the S4 Angelus arc.
-What’re your views on using the term “childe” in a fic?
There's no canon term for that word, so I think it's okay to use in description, but I don't like seeing it in dialogue.
-Am I the only one who’s uncomfortable calling actors by their first names when talking about them?
No. I like initials. Although I have no problem calling Joss by his first name.
-What kinda name is Boreanaz?
No idea. Italian sounds plausible.

I'm new to lj, and I don't read smut, so I'll let everyone else answer those questions :)

First, regarding the lj posts... I friended you and am now responding. I hope to get to know you better. Do you take my post less seriously or in some negative light because I am taking the time to post? People love to get responses.

Second, as for feeling guilty about Doyle... just remember that he was a last minute change. When the actor for Whistler (who was introduced in Buffy so he could take Angel to LA) backed out of the show, they created a whole new demon to be Angel's link to the higher powers. I also didn't like the character. I'm not sure why, but he always felt forced to me.

Last, smut for smut gets old really, really quick. Granted, I prefer to see something rather than a pan shot moving from the bed to the window (quote: The Truman Show), but doing it just to be doing it is boring.

And PS: Yes, males can easily become erect while giving blood (Quote Xander: Can get turned on by thinking of linoleum).

I'm feeling chatty today, so I thought I'd give my answers to a few of these...

General:

- Chest hair. I remember having a little bit of a discussion about this with you on my LJ re: David Duchovny. I do not have a problem with chest hair. It's better than pretty, pretty boys. That is not attractive at all to me. In fact, I applaud male actors such as DD who actually don't become slaves to waxing and preening too much. I mean, it's not like most men have shag piles on their chests anyway. A bit of hair won't hurt.

- Charisma Carpenter's hair. I don't know whether she wanted to cut it short and dye it blonde, but I personally prefer it long and dark brown. Her hair is gorgeous and indeed enviable. Back in 1999/2000 (AtS S1), I wanted my growing-out-of-horrible-concentric-mushroom-style layers hair to be like that.

Shirtless Angel holding baby Connor. It wouldn't have hurt them to fit one of those in, somewhere.

Holtz. No, sorry, I really can't see anything remotely sexy there. More creepy, cringy. But, I applaud your diversity here. Holtz is not typically eye candy material, so I'm all for equal opportunities.

Names etc

- I don't know that I see Angel using too many terms of endearment, especially very soppy ones. This is despite his penchant for Barry Manilow looove music. I think Buffy S2 Angelus used terms such as "my love"; I actually can't remember Angel using any.

- Buffy, on the other hand, is a different matter. She's more informal and just generally has a thing for shortening names and even making names up for things. I don't know that she'd name Spike "daddy", or Faith "precious", but I could see the occasional sprinklings of "hon" or other terms for her SO.

LJ etiquette

- Personal life entries. I don't avoid commenting, but I don't overpush with my comments either if I don't know the person very well. I try to get some form of happy medium if I can.

- Awkward/nervousness. Just a little, yes, although more for personal LJs than communities.

Smut

Epic stories with long sex scenes. I feel like you read my mind. Some smut scenes in such stories almost bore me to tears. And I actually skip them because I'm like, "Okay, he's done her six ways to Sunday already. How many more times can he stick it to her before I claw my own eyes out?!??"

That point is beyond gratuitous in my book.

Okay, I'm done.

Have a good weekend.

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