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It's Lion Turtles all the way down ([personal profile] lettered) wrote2005-11-13 04:07 am

Guilty Pleasures

Because it's almost 5am, and I still can't get to sleep.

[livejournal.com profile] stultiloqentia recently posted a drinking game for Spuffy smut fic. It's a list of words you're sure to have seen a time or two (except for, you know, gnomon). Of course, "cold dead seed" makes an appearance.

Also, a while back, [livejournal.com profile] kita0610 had an outing for the old schoolers who invented things like Buffy's vanilla scent. They're those things that get used again and again. And again.

And on [livejournal.com profile] stultiloqentia's list? I was surprised to realize I don't care how over-used it is, I still find the primal roar/whisper "Mine!" sexy. I also get turned on by Buffy's "tiny hands" (in Angel's broad ones), even though it's in every single fic on ff.net, the unsexiest place in the whole wide world.

I've managed to convince myself I'm not the only one.

So come on. What are those "I don't care how many times I see it, I still like it"s? Okay, it might be more of a "I don't care how many other people misuse it, I still like it if it's done right", but you have one, don't you? You like seeing Spike say "Da" or "Yes, Sire," or "Xanpet". You like Buffy's mossy green eyes and Angel's chocolate ones. You like it when _____'s mouth is like satin and ______'s spunk tastes like honey. You like it when Buffy finds out Angel married her without telling her when he put the Claddagh ring on her finger. You like seeing Angel spelled "Angle". What's your cliché-kink?
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[personal profile] lynnenne 2005-11-13 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
"Sire" can be really hot if Spike whispers it during sex. But then, I like hearing Spike whisper anything during sex. *g*

I think I've used "Da" in almost every Spike/Angel sex scene I've written. I know it's a cliche, but it just gets me hot. I once heard some fans complaining that Spike would never say "Da" because it's a regional dialect and he's from London... but the way I figure it, his whole accent is fake anyway, so it doesn't need to be authentic. Besides, you just *know* Angelus taught him to call him that.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-11-13 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember the first A/S scene I read that I really liked (it also happened to be the first slash scene I really really liked). I was finding it pretty hot already, but then Spike whispered "Sire" and that was when I knew I'd never be the same again.

You using "Da" makes me a little wibbling puddle of goo. But when I see it elsewhere I usually kind just go eh? A very few authors can get away with it. You always can because well, you're you. You always write good talk-during-sex.
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[personal profile] lynnenne 2005-11-13 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
*blushes* Thank you!
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[identity profile] rainkatt.livejournal.com 2005-11-14 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
If it's done right, I just melt at Spike calling Angel "Sire." Other times, I just cringe. "Da" is all right, too, but I can't stand "mine."

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2005-11-14 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
OMFG yes, I am a "da" whore. I blame TBQ for that completely. And it's just perpetuated by some really awesome writers, thank god. Like yourself. Whereas, "Sire", isd unfortunately used in every bad fic ever and so it doesn't work as well for me anymore. During sex is also the only time I can see Spike using that term as a form of address.

[identity profile] winterlive.livejournal.com 2005-11-14 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
Plus also when mocking.

Spike: There we were, just finished off the demon and the alley's dead quiet. We know there's one more, so it's tense, and I'm thinking: that's my sire.
Angel: Spike.
Spike: Angelus, the Great and Glorious, peril of the...
Angel: Shut up.
Spike: ...Russian steppes, feared destroyer of Los Angeles demon riff raff.
Angel: *stands up, comes around the desk*
Spike: *backing through the door, pious* Anyone would have started. Alert, on edge, the warrior sort...
Angel: *passing Wesley (English face) and Gunn (openly grinning), gaining speed*
Spike: Bloody cat was enormous!

And fistfight ensues while Gunn and Wesley crack up. So. Sire. Not during sex.

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2005-11-14 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
Yea, he's *referred* to Angel as his Sire many times, but not as a form of address. As in, "Wanna shag, Sire?"

[identity profile] winterlive.livejournal.com 2005-11-14 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
Hee. Just being funny.

But yes, a writer must be as careful with "sire" usage as with opening a bottle of coke that rode up the mountains in the back of a land rover. I have this theory that anything at all can be done well in the hands of the right author, but all the same. There should be a "handle with care" list or something. ;)
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-11-14 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
People should have to get a license to use words like that.

A badge in the userinfo that says, "I can use the word 'Da', bitches." Or something like that.

[identity profile] eliade.livejournal.com 2005-11-14 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
"Sire" can be really hot if Spike whispers it during sex. But then, I like hearing Spike whisper anything during sex. *g*

"Carrots," Spike whispered huskily as Angel slid big arms around his waist.

*hee*

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2005-11-14 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
Hey! Angel will have you know it's cucumber-sized.

[identity profile] ex-dovil323.livejournal.com 2005-11-14 09:16 am (UTC)(link)
Can't. Stop. Giggling.
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[personal profile] lynnenne 2005-11-14 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Stop turning me on, or I'm gonna take that carrot and do unspeakable things with it.
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[personal profile] gloss 2005-11-14 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I once heard some fans complaining that Spike would never say "Da" because it's a regional dialect and he's from London... but the way I figure it, his whole accent is fake anyway, so it doesn't need to be authentic. Besides, you just *know* Angelus taught him to call him that.
*nodnod*
My personal fanwank on that is that he does it for Angel/us - maybe because 'Da' is so very stereotypically Irish? - anyway. I argued for several emails back and forth about using it with someone who was trying to take me to task for the anachronism. So I've thought about it a lot.

also, it's hot *flees
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-11-14 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
My personal fanwank on that is that he does it for Angel/us - maybe because 'Da' is so very stereotypically Irish? - anyway.

That was my take on it, first time I saw "Da." Now I want to see a fic where Spike tries it out for the first time.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Oh! *bookmarks* I love you, and look forward to reading it. Thanks for linkage.
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[personal profile] lynnenne 2005-11-15 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
That fic is *awesome.*
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[personal profile] lynnenne 2005-11-15 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
maybe because 'Da' is so very stereotypically Irish?

God, yes. The perversion would be a perfect way to stick it to his own father. Angelus would *so* get off on that.