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It's Lion Turtles all the way down ([personal profile] lettered) wrote2006-01-01 08:39 pm

Questions Post #6

So, since it's a holiday, I'm reducing my normal fare to two questions.

1.What's one thing you really hated about fandom last year?

A fight, a wank, a post, a trend in fic, a trend in meta, a fic, a friend, a person, that time when you weren't getting your lj notices, Joyce Summers, a 'ship, the sock puppet phenomenon, anything.

Whine, bitch, moan, complain, get your hate on, sign out and be anonymous, sign out and be wanky, sign out and flame me. Because fandom is like a piñata. It's fun to bash.

2.What's one thing you really loved about fandom last year?

A rec, a meta, a breakthrough in fic writing, a fandom experience, meeting a fandom someone in rl, lj's extra userpics, joining a new fandom, seeing a movie/reading a book etc that you will fangirl/boy about, anything.

Love, gush, hug, squish, slather me with goo and lick it off, put coffee liquer on Spike's cock and make Angel lick it off. Because fandom is like a piñata. You can bash it as much as you want but there's still good stuff to be had. Stuff that's fun to suck on. Like Spike's...er. Um. See? Fandom is love.
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[personal profile] lynnenne 2006-01-02 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
1. Fairy Spike.

2. You!
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, right back atcha.

[identity profile] a2zmom.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
Not only does Spike's head look like a Ken doll (now that you mention it) but it looks like the one my best friend owned after her bother chewed the nose off!

1. Kerfuffles where people were reduced to a bunch of bitchy 11 year old girls. I think lots of people are too sensitive and people don't undrestand that "tone of voice" is often not what we think it is in lj.

2. New wonderful writers. Like you and [livejournal.com profile] lostakasha
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
tone of voice

Ha, that's a good way to put it. But I have similar issues even in rl--sometimes I think my tone of voice sounds not how I mean it to sound, or even not how I feel. I guess I sound annoyed and pissed off a lot.

Like you and lostakasha

Aw, thanks. And isn't [livejournal.com profile] lostakasha awesome? She kindles my Cordy love.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, and so glad you agree about the Ken doll. He uses way more product than Angel, but Angel's always the one who gets the crap about it. But! JM has a nose, so I'm not sure how the nose-chew Ken doll fits in...

*waits for doll!spike fic*

Actually, there's a fic at AFF.N with the summary: "An author has fun with her Spike action figure..." It's got me so scared...and yet, strangely fascinated.

[identity profile] a2zmom.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder if Spike's head is removeable the way Ken's was. And the ken doll I had had flocked hair that was glued on (a crewcut.) I am disturbed by this whole discussion now.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
Yay! For some reason, I see you as someone rather difficult to disturb.

Which is why I keep using this icon. Eeee!

[identity profile] a2zmom.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
I raise that Eeeee! and put in an Eeewww.

And I am difficult to disturb. You've seen my icon. That came out of my loins! (Slightly smaller sized)
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
Stop talking about your loins! Eeeewww!

[identity profile] a2zmom.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, I'll have you know that my loins are quite loinful. Except for that stretch mark and that huge ass scar.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
The marks of motherhood are sexy.

To someone, I'm sure. ;o)

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
1. Bad slash fic. With accompanying artwork. I name no names. Sweeping generalizations in the form of "essays" regarding other people's motivations for what they write. I name no names. The drift out of Jossverse fandom now that canon is closed.

2. Good slash fic. Like yours, and Germaine Pet's. The trip to NYC to see VK NAKEDOMG. The immense support from fandom when my family struggled with health and money issues. The mere existance of gorgeous, smart, funny women who read LJ.

Spike IS a Ken doll. Except he's anatomically correct, so he gets points.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
I name no names.

Come to cogitate on it, you don't really need to.

Like yours, and Germaine Pet's

Thanks. And! Iirc, it was a rec of yours that led me to Angels and Insects, and started me on a S/A A/C A/C/S downward slope of love. Plus, [livejournal.com profile] germain_pet. Just...special. So, thanks!

The trip to NYC to see VK NAKEDOMG

I skimmed your post about Slag Heap when you posted your year in review, but somehow I missed the NAKED, OMG. Lucky you. I'm going to go reread your post and drool second hand.

The mere existance of gorgeous, smart, funny women who read LJ.

Ain't it grand? I've already admit I'm the cheesiest of cheese, so it won't hurt my image to say that every day, it surprises me.

Spike IS a Ken doll.

You're looking for wee!doll!Spike with which Angel plays to get his big massive cock off, aren't you? *waits for the manip of Angel's big massive cock wearing wee!doll!Spike's leather jacket*

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
I linked to the VK Slag Heap post. You should read [livejournal.com profile] ros_fod's posts about it for maximum squeeage though. She's his No. One Fan 4Eva OMG. And yea, we were front row, he was naked, and uh. We may call him a boy, but parts of him are all MAN I tell you. *cough*

*waits for the manip of Angel's big massive cock wearing wee!doll!Spike's leather jacket*

Alas, I'm sure it already exists somewhere.

I'm proud to have contributed to your downfall. Please fill my name in on the form, so I can redeem my points for the free porn toaster oven.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
She's his No. One Fan 4Eva OMG.

Yep. Before I knew [livejournal.com profile] ros_fod, I knew that. It just shines through her ;o) Definitely will read.

We may call him a boy, but parts of him are all MAN I tell you.

Glad to hear he is anatomically correct as well.

I'm proud to have contributed to your downfall. Please fill my name in on the form, so I can redeem my points for the free porn toaster oven.

Oh, definitely. You and [livejournal.com profile] germaine_pet deserve the biggest, porniest toaster ovens they have in stock. And I think you get a complimentary tea cozie for being one of my biggest inspirations in fic. I don't necessarily know what a tea cozie is, but I bet you want one.

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
OMG Tea Cozy! It's like you can read my soul.

VK's penis and I salute you.

[identity profile] a2zmom.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
I am tempted to name names (re: bad slash fic and accoompanying art), but my mom would reach down out of heaven and smack me one for unneccesary rudeness.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. Except my mom is in the other room and if I typed something unnecessarily rude, she'd probably...I dunno, hear it, and I dunno, be disappointed, which would just make me so guilty.

But my dad would be cheering me on.

[identity profile] dlgood.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
Sweeping generalizations in the form of "essays" regarding other people's motivations

Dude, but that insane "people write slash because Joss traumatized them" generated some very special replies...

[identity profile] a2zmom.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
It sure as shit did.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
I'll have to go back. I couldn't stomach scrolling through the whole essay to get to the replies.

[identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
1. Fairy Spike and related phenomena. Mostly related to quality issues, however. Also disrespecting other cultures for crack fic issues. *is a snob like whoa*

2. New friends. Revived fandoms (due South). Good fic.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
I think Fairy Spike is winning!

And word to the revived fandoms. I love going back and feeling the love all over again.

[identity profile] semby.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
1. Kerfuffles and wank of all kinds, although I refuse to mention any specific ones cuz it brings back annoyed-with-people feelings, and I want to be happy! It's 2006!

2. Lots. New friends, new fics, new kinks, new beloved pairings... the list goes on.

I'm good with bringing the vague tonight.

And Spike's head totally looks like a Ken doll!
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Strangely, kerfluffles and wanks are really enjoyable to me. I hate seeing people being cruel, people getting hurt, and people being stupid. I really do hate it and wish it wouldn't happen. But, with some mixture of shame and amusement, I have to admit I kinda get a kick outta watching them anyway.

New kinks--that's a good one! I love reading a fic and finding a kink I didn't know I had.

So glad you agree with the Ken doll. When I said JM as William looked like a young Patrick Stewart, everyone thought I was nuts, and I feared people would say the same with this...but it really, really looks flat and plastic, like a Ken doll.

[identity profile] aloneinthetown.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
I never thought about it but you're totally right! Spike = Ken doll! Those Ken dolls always had weird, long, eggy-shaped heads and that's kind of Spike's head (at least when his hair was plastered to his head).
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
So glad you agree.

JM is hot, even if he is but a twee small thing. But I have to admit I had a really hard time finding Spike hot at first because of his hair--the way it was all plastered down, it looked hard to the touch, hard and rather unpleasant. The thought of looking between the cracks--you could actually SEE the comb lines--down to his scalp made me cringe to look at him. Eventually I learned to get over it, though I still dislike it intensely.

He was SO sexy though, in S7, when his hair was growing out, and curly, and you could see the dark roots. I think that's probably why I enjoyed the idea of souled!Spike so damn much--first view of him was just so freakin' hawt.
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[personal profile] herself_nyc 2006-01-02 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
1. L'affaire Cousinjean

2. The fic of [livejournal.com profile] nwhepcat.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
1. Totally agree. I was still relatively new to lj when that happened, and I was pretty sickened by it. I'd never seen anything like that happen before. Since then I've been more amused by wank and reactions to it than perturbed, but that was...an unpleasant thing to stumble upon in my early time here.

2. So, any specific recs? I've read one fic by her, but I've heard so much about her I'd love to start in on more.
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[personal profile] herself_nyc 2006-01-02 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] nwhepcat's finished stuff is archived at buggerthis.net. Her long fic "Lilac City" is a thing of great intrigue and beauty.

She recently completed Keeper of the Book which is also outstanding.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks! I have a big ole pile of stuff to read, but these two are going somewhere near the top of the list.
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[personal profile] herself_nyc 2006-01-02 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad! She's one of the best of the best writing Jossverse fic these days. And she's made Xander her own in a completely fully-imagined way, giving him an inner life and a set of adventures that's irresistible--and I'm not particularly a Xander fan.

[identity profile] ba4ever.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
1. Double standards, but that's all the time. This whole ordeal over people being persecuted and crucified for not like Spuffy, sort of eye rollworthy, very wanky and annoying. I hate Spike, I really do, and what I hate even more are immature Spuffies harassing me for it. Fact #23384749 just had a comment today. Get that a lot, but I stand true to my opinion and my belief, so it really makes no difference.

Oh and btw, said person commented and promptly deleted like a coward, last month, or was it November? More harassment, didn't like what they had to say in regards to rape, so I deleted and banned them from my LJ, person proceeded to email me.

*sigh*


2. The people. The fic, the communities and meetinmg people. I enjoy the people IN my fandom more than the people itself. Finally meeting an online buddy, we're pretty tight and I can go as fangurly as I want around her, and vice versa, it's nice, and comforting that I'm not the only freak here lol.

First stab at paid account. Might not be as exciting for someone that doesn't make graphics, but it is to me, because I icon like the bajesus, and playing around with layours are really fun. Improved my graphics skills I think, have become more comfortable with doing larger things like headers and wallpapers.

Being asked my [livejournal.com profile] chrisleeoctaves to help redesign Octaves and The Angel Texts.


Pretty much, there are some shitty things that happen, but there are also good ones. As much as there are annoying people, or annoying dramas that go on, I wouldn't change it for the world, because lj wouldn't be lj and fandom wouldn't be fandom without a little drama.


I've often wondered why many people make fun of Angel's hair, and why not Spike? It looks like a helmet aka plastic Ken doll hair. You can't make fun of someone else's hair if yours is worse, it just makes you look like an ass lol. I'd take Angel spikey hair over Ken doll any day of the week.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
1. I love Spike, but totally respect your right to hate him ;o)

2. Word on the people aspect.

And! Completely understand about the paid account. You're right, since I don't make graphics, I really don't feel the need for a paid account, but if you're an graphic artist, not having a paid account is kinda like not being able to show off your fic or something. So glad you're trying it.

And both Octaves and The Angel Texts look awesome.

Pretty much, there are some shitty things that happen, but there are also good ones. As much as there are annoying people, or annoying dramas that go on, I wouldn't change it for the world, because lj wouldn't be lj and fandom wouldn't be fandom without a little drama.

I agree completely. I toyed with just asking one question or the other...because I wanted to be positive, but also love hearing people bitch. Then I realized fandom is both. It's about having fun, yeah, but there's the inevitable opposite-of-fun stuff. And strangely, I kinda have fun with that sometimes too!

I've often wondered why many people make fun of Angel's hair, and why not Spike?

This is exactly what I always wondered. As sexy as I think Spike is, I find his hair kinda...gross. Angel's hair, now. Looks cute. Might be hard with gel but it looks soft. And you can get a good grip on it.

You can't make fun of someone else's hair if yours is worse, it just makes you look like an ass lol.

Come to think on it, that's possibly why they had Spike make fun of him using hair products a time or two. Spike kinda likes to take the high ground, when sometimes his own problems are much worse.

[identity profile] ba4ever.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
And both Octaves and The Angel Texts look awesome.

Thanks! It was a good experience lol.

This is exactly what I always wondered. As sexy as I think Spike is, I find his hair kinda...gross. Angel's hair, now. Looks cute. Might be hard with gel but it looks soft. And you can get a good grip on it.

LOL it's definitely good to be able to run your hands through while you're having wild monkey sex *G*.

[identity profile] dlgood.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
1. I am arrogant and thus expect all people to bow and scrape before me. Am frustrated when this does not happen.

2. New entrants into fandom putting out new fandom products...
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
1. Have the same problem. In fact! Many of the very insightful, profound things you wrote about yourself last month had me nodding my head and saying "me too". Especially the am brilliant but also slothful stuff--which might also be arrogance on my part. Which just leads to more frustration. It's difficult being geniuses like us ;o)

[identity profile] dlgood.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
As the song goes... "Oh lord, it's hard to be humble when you're perfect in every way..."

[identity profile] a2zmom.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
his actual name is "dlgod" but he tries to not frighten the little children.

[identity profile] lillianmorgan.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 09:42 am (UTC)(link)
1. People for no apparent reason attacking other people via their fic.
2. [livejournal.com profile] open_on_sunday
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
1. It's bad enough elsewhere. Leave fanfic alone!
2. Nice answer! I'm not a member, but I love love love reading other people's drabbles from that comm. Some are simply amazing.

[identity profile] fb2wendy.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Have to go with a lot of people and say that my most hated part of fandom last year was the kerfuffles. I'm with a2zmom on it being like witnessing a mass transformation of fandom into 11 year girls.

2. What did I love? Finding new cool people, exploring a brand new fandom (The X Files - I've been into the show for years, but I only looked in on the fandom in the last year) and discovering the love of making videos. That got my fan girl love on big time.

Happy New Year!
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-01-03 07:21 am (UTC)(link)
1. I know I've probably led a sheltered life, but I've rarely witnessed first hand people being as cruel to each other as I've seen them be online. It's appalling, really. Makes me want to make popcorn and get a comfy seat.

2. Oh! I knew you loved the X Files for a long time; I didn't know you just got into the fandom--awesome! I love that--kinda did it earlier this year with Gone With The Wind. And there's no way in a million years I could make a video, but I marvel at those who do ;o)

Happy New Year to you too!
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[identity profile] alwaysjbj.livejournal.com 2006-01-02 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
1 Memes! I know I am probably one of the only people who hates memes and I probably wouldn't hate them so much if people were to put them behind a cut... but when you check your flist and have to scroll past 50 identical and unbelievably LONG memes it gets...well.. FRUSTRATING!!!

2. Too many things! My friends mostly. Fabulous fic. [livejournal.com profile] good__evil The new community that my friend [livejournal.com profile] selene2 and I started which is so much fun! (You absolutely should come and join!!)
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-01-03 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
1. I don't mind memes, but it does drive me a little batty when people don't put long stuff behind a cut. I don't know how those people with ginormous flists do it.

2. I'm definitely going to be reading stuff on [livejournal.com profile] good_evil, but I realized I can't write things for anything--I get crazy. But I'll be watching!
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[identity profile] alwaysjbj.livejournal.com 2006-01-04 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
That's cool. It is a no pressure community... if you would like to vote or post you need to join other than that there is no requirements from anyone. If your muse is inspired and you want to submit fic that is great... if not, reading is great too.

Also fics don't need to be new ones so if you have a previously written fic that fits the month you are more than welcome to submit it. Mostly it is just about having fun!

[identity profile] zibbycomix.livejournal.com 2008-09-26 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
1. Well, I just dislike fandom fighting and ripping each other apart in general.
2) I just love everything about the fandom (except #1, and that's bound to happen, I suppose). I especially love all of the wonderful people I've "met" through fandom. You all are amazingly awesome (including you!)! =)