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It's Lion Turtles all the way down ([personal profile] lettered) wrote2006-03-19 02:45 pm

To hell with characterization!

It's all about how they look!

Either this stuff gets off my chest,

Angel does not have wide hips. I suspect that those of you who have said his hips are wide have said so because it is a "standard of beauty." This is a standard of feminine beauty, usually. (Unless you're Joss Whedon. Does Faith's, Inara's, and Gwen's lack of hippage make anyone else wince? The girl's are gorgeous, and hot, but . . . there's no grip!) Anyway, DB has the *narrowest* hips since the triangle was inverted.

Spike's cheekbones cannot cut anything. Spike's cheekbones have never appeared on midnight infomercials. They do not slice. They do not dice. You cannot get a free blowjob when you order them Stricken due to quick perusal of Ebay. Apparently, you can.

Xander never had washboard abs. And okay, even if he did in s4 (or was it 5?) when NB looked so good and they were doing his hair right, YOU COULD NOT WASH DISHES ON HIM. Spike doesn't even *wash* the damn dishes. Unless you're in a [livejournal.com profile] femmenerd fic in which she'd so work it.

Angel is pale. Paler than most people. If you call him tan, even in all-human crack AUs, OZ WILL HUNT YOU DOWN.

Let's all admit it right now. Spike is not only sexy, he is Teh Sex. But how many times do you have to say in a fic, Spike is made of sex, Spike is sex personified, Spike is sex made flesh? Even [livejournal.com profile] germaine_pet herself can only get away with an innocent little Spike's an intensely sexual creature here or there, but YOU probably shouldn't even try. Yes YOU. YOU WHO IS READING THIS RIGHT NOW. Including me because I just wrote that right now. (Who wants to know if [livejournal.com profile] germaine_pet just read that right now and had an out of body moment of existential crisis before regaining her sense of identity and floating back to earth on a cloud made of . . . of . . . SEX? I WANT TO KNOW, PERSONALLY. *boggles*)

I have difficulty with the idea of Angel having "thick" lips. Brangelina have enough lip to create a third lip country of their own where children unfortunate enough to have been born with poor lips get an extra third lip courtesy of Brangelina themselves. Gunn and Faith have a loveshack there, but ANGEL DOES NOT LIVE THERE. But Spike does when he does the lip thing. YOU KNOW THE LIP THING I'M TALKING ABOUT.

Speaking of which, Spike, TAKE OFF THOSE LIPS AND GIVE CUPID BACK HIS BOW, YOU DAMN THEIF, GEEZ.

Spike is not taller than Wesley.

For once I'd like Angel's hair to be to be prickley, slightly course, and sticky with gel, instead of silky. For once I'd like Spike's hair to be hard and caked and slightly uncomfortable to grab, instead of . . . silky. The next time I read about anyone sinking their hands into S2-6's Spike's hair KEN DOLLS WILL HUNT YOU DOWN.

Spike's eyes are not chips. Not of saphires and not of ice. They are not sour cream n' onion flavored, they are not BBQ, they are not salt and vinegar, and they do not pass go. And yes, I know he's from England, and you know what? SPIKE'S EYES STILL DON'T COME WITH FISH!

Buffy HAS and ass. God, I love it.

Xander's lips are not often cherry red. His eyes are quite chocolately, I'll give you that because I am generous and made of sweetness and light, but THERE IS NO CHERRY ON TOP OF THIS SUNDAE, SNOOKUMS. EAT IT AND LOVE IT.

I don't know about you guys, but cigarette smoke trumps both leather and the slight tang of whiskey, sorry, unless you have super vamp senses. WHICH XANDER DOESN'T!
eta: Though if it's S4, or your AU in which S & X are lovers, and assuming Xander let's Spike smoke in the basement/apartment/loveshack, Xander might very well have become acclimated. In which case, he could smell Spike's leather and whiskey smells. He could also smell Spike's demon goo, hair gel and come. And he could leisurely grab Spike by the front of his pants and jerk the vampire's hips against his. And he could take a whiff, in the sexy hyena!Xander fashion, then slowly lean in as if to nip Spike's ear. Instead he'd say--smooth, like white backs and red tongues and so much promise, "You smell like sex." Spike'd snort. "Made've sex, love. Sex personified. Sex made flesh. Or did you forget it and me've been declared synonymous, now?"

Dude! I just wrote S/X! *feels proud*

*

And now for something completely different. Or okay, tangentially related, but not really.

I want to do a Bad!fic Ficathon. Actually, I want to do a Reclaim Fandom From Its Percieved Takeover By What You Percieve As Bad!fic Ficathon. RFFIPTBWYPABF!F for short. It's not about writing bad!fic, though that would be fun. It's taking an idea that you personally think can only end in bad (start with bad! *snorfle* I'm so clever!) and making it good.

Because I actually don't believe there are bad ideas, only bad writers and bad execution. I want to see writers:
a. write something they've seen and sneered at, or thought couldn't be done well, but then DO IT and DO IT WELL,
b. write utter crack, UTTERLY CRACKTASTIC CRACK, and make it wonderful and beautiful and something everyone would love reading, and not through the powers of Xander's Magic Cock, but through powerful writing and plot and thought even if Angel IS wearing a toutou as Spike foresaw in "In The Dark," or
c. write some other thing that takes ideas and methods that you consider "bad" and uses them for good.

(On that last one: for instance, I'm dying to write this fic where Spike gets trapped in an AU where he's a princess and beefy Angel is beating him black and blue with omg, alliteration, where the Real Angel is forced to go save Spike. Of course, the Real Angel would only point and laugh and keep Spikella on picture-in-picture with a hockey game, and point and laugh some more while drinking otter blood in a leather chair. BUT OTTER BLOOD IS NOT THE POINT! I WOULD MAKE ANGEL SAVE THE PRINCESS AND I WOULD MAKE IT GOOD!)

So, um, anyone interested?

ETA: I should add, I don't enter ficathons. I can't. It's beyond me. But I would run one. How hypocritical and perverse is that?

[identity profile] spiralleds.livejournal.com 2006-03-20 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I'd pick out particular things on this list to indicate what I found funniest, but I'd be recopying the whole thing. And while find the idea of there is no bad fic, only bad execution a great concept, I am trying with all the resolve in my being to say no to ficathons until I finish the mega fic upon which I'm currently working.
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[identity profile] femmenerd.livejournal.com 2006-03-20 09:50 am (UTC)(link)
How DID you get so cracktastically bitchy and awesome? Inquiring mind wants to know.

And incidentally, I have the dishwashing kink because it seems so incongruous. Also, thank you for your faith in me. :)

Speaking of the "Spike is the god of sex" thing, in [livejournal.com profile] herself_nyc fic for [livejournal.com profile] seasonal_spuffy she included the most friggin' romantic premature ejaculation ever and I jumped for joy.

*admits to having idealized the crap out of said blonde bloodsucker in the past.

Your ficathon idea is brilliant. If it happens waaaaay later, I might do it--I'd probably have to write the damn dishwashing fic myself, though lately I just seem to want other people to write my kinks for me. And they do! Because I am spoiled!

[identity profile] chrisleeoctaves.livejournal.com 2006-03-20 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
Someone said Angel's hips were wide?

*hee*

So, so not true. His shoulders, otoh, another story.

This was a funny (and scarily true) list of bad!fic stuff. I am possibly guilty of the Spike cheekbones thing...but at least I never posited that Lindsey could carry Angel. *g*
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[identity profile] entrenous88.livejournal.com 2006-03-20 01:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Xander's lips are not often cherry red. His eyes are quite chocolately, I'll give you that because I am generous and made of sweetness and light, but THERE IS NO CHERRY ON TOP OF THIS SUNDAE, SNOOKUMS. EAT IT AND LOVE IT.

Ha! I think I did this recently! To be fair, the character thinking it was on the end of what was a very enthusiastic blowjob. Oh well, I'll admit it: I SUCK!

*twirls away*
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[identity profile] ladycat777.livejournal.com 2006-03-20 01:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously, I love you. LOVE. And I want in on this ficathon, yes yes.

[identity profile] lostakasha.livejournal.com 2006-03-20 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh.

I love you more every moment.

Count me in.

[identity profile] sweptawaybayou.livejournal.com 2006-03-20 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
*snorfle*

You are teh!eval.

:)

I WOULD MAKE ANGEL SAVE THE PRINCESS AND I WOULD MAKE IT GOOD!

*dies*
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[identity profile] elizaria.livejournal.com 2006-03-20 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
LMAO - this was awesome! I have seen these descriptions way to many times.

The ficathon sounds like a great idea, not sure my writing skills is up for it to sign up though LoL but I'll def read the 'thon :D

[identity profile] dlgood.livejournal.com 2006-03-20 02:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Didja ever notice how folks have chocolate brown eyes, but no one has fecal brown eyes? Even though, last time I checked, poo was brown.

[identity profile] stoney321.livejournal.com 2006-03-20 02:58 pm (UTC)(link)
*cough* Let it go on record to show that I've referred to Spike as Angel's blondey crunchy poo.

And I've wanted to have a Gud Summries ficathon since December but am LAZY. Do eet!
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[identity profile] makd.livejournal.com 2006-03-20 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
This was so damned funny, I can't begin to tell you what I laughed at most.

Although, of course, the whole Brangelina thing was pretty good, and the width of Angel's hips (and anyone who says his hips are wide? hasn't really studied the actor who played him.), and the cutting cheeks of Spike (accomplished, IMHO, with clever oral surgery), and on, and on, and wait!

OMG, you forgot the vanilla golden scent of The Slayer!!!

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You started my workday perfectly! thankyou, thankyou, thankyou.

[identity profile] a2zmom.livejournal.com 2006-03-20 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
All of this is sadly true. Or funnily true.

The hair gel thing always gets me. It's why I deliberately had Buffy fool with the hair at the nape of Angel's neck. (I might even have had her think about this being the only ungelled hair on his head.)

Love the ficathon idea but I'm not sure about participating. You have to pretty much write an epic to do a bad cliche fic idea proper justice.

[identity profile] aloneinthetown.livejournal.com 2006-03-20 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't even get it when fic writers say Angel has full lips and soft pillowy breasts. Okay, so they DON'T say the breasts thing, but they do say the lips thing - which is oddly feminine and freaks me out!

And I'm not sure I'm a good enough writer to write good bad!fic. Maybe really horrible bad!fic that's also funny, but not the good kind. Mostly cause I'm kind of a fic snob (but I love yours!).
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[personal profile] rahirah 2006-03-20 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Do people really describe Angel as having wide hips? I find this scary.

That would be a cool ficathon. OTOH I have already written Disneyland/kidfic; how much lower can I sink?
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[personal profile] luminosity 2006-03-20 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
For once I'd like Angel's hair to be to be prickley, slightly course, and sticky with gel, instead of silky.

Unlife is hard for Angel's hair....[said in George Page voice] Yeah, it coulda been silky at one time, before he *ruined* it with all of that cheap product. Now, it's coarse and overprocessed, and would probably break a comb in half.

Let's talk about his ass now. With alliterations! :)

[identity profile] anelith.livejournal.com 2006-03-20 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
For once I'd like Angel's hair to be to be prickley, slightly course, and sticky with gel, instead of silky. For once I'd like Spike's hair to be hard and caked and slightly uncomfortable to grab, instead of . . . silky. The next time I read about anyone sinking their hands into S2-6's Spike's hair KEN DOLLS WILL HUNT YOU DOWN.

I remember so well my mother's description of what it was like to go on dates in her youth. She said she always had to wash hair gel off her hands after kissing her date goodbye. I guess Mom didn't restrain herself to a little peck on the cheek, hmmm...

I cannot contribute to this ficathon, but I will eat up each and every entry with a *spoon*. I love crack!fic.

[identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com 2006-03-20 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
On DB's lack of hip-age, word.

People not realizing how short JM is is almost as funny as them not realizing how old he is.

Though my favorite is when they make Gunn shorter than the rest of the guys. *facepalm*

On a side note, I was re-watching some of BtVS S1 and wondering how many blocks they put under SMG when Angel and Buffy kiss at the end of "Angel."
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[personal profile] my_daroga 2006-03-20 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Could I love you more? I think not!

Like several others on your list here, I was gonna comment with my favorite bits but that'd take the whole thing and my copy and paste skills would get used up.

But can we still say Spike is made of sex if we're not currenty writing a fic? Like, right here? Can I say it?

Oh, and I think every fic I've ever written is a badfic reclaimation. Or something to that effect.

[identity profile] spuffyduds.livejournal.com 2006-03-20 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Chortly SNERK!!!!!

This is great fun. I don't know if my brain is quite ironic/meta enough, or if I've read enough of what's out there, to do a bad!fic (on purpose, anyway.) But I'd be willing to try it, fired up by a post this good!

[identity profile] leni-ba.livejournal.com 2006-03-20 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
You're reading too much fic for your own good. But then, that's why we're all here, right?

Loved the list. The Spike comment reminded me that I need to make my monthly statement of 'Roy Dupuis is Sex in Black Leather' *licks lips* I need my LFN fix. *pout*

Hm... where was I?

[identity profile] crazydiamondsue.livejournal.com 2006-03-20 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
For once I'd like Angel's hair to be to be prickley, slightly course, and sticky with gel, instead of silky - Hah! I've done that in every Angel centric fic I've written. Okay. None are Angel centric. But those involving Angel have the crunchy.

And Nick Brendon's eyes are hazel - Xander's just look chocolatey from the gothic lighting. *nods the nod of the all-knowing* I give chocolatey eyes a pass.

I could be persuaded to the fic-a-thon, though I've already poked fun at Spander (more than once) in funny fic and Spangel (for [livejournal.com profile] dovil). If there's nothing I love more, it's mocking myself.

[identity profile] ribbonroad.livejournal.com 2006-03-20 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Spike's cheekbones have never appeared on midnight infomercials. They do not slice. They do not dice.

No, no, no. See, if we all believed that Spike's cheekbones could cut through craboard and steel, that he could blind people with the furious blond/whiteness of his hair, then it would be so. Just believe.

[identity profile] violaclaire.livejournal.com 2006-03-21 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Omg, I really want to do this now. But I don't know if I have the plotting ability. Curses. I'll love reading them though.

[identity profile] cordelianne.livejournal.com 2006-03-21 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
I love that you're on my flist!! This is SO FUNNY! You should have the following disclaimer in your LJ: "Warning: Do not drink any beverages while reading entries." Because snorting pop up the nose is all bad ... except when it's funny. Fortunately I was wisely NOT drinking while reading your post, but I recently experienced the pop up the nose so want to deter others from the silly experience. /weird rambling

Let's all admit it right now. Spike is not only sexy, he is Teh Sex. But how many times do you have to say in a fic, Spike is made of sex, Spike is sex personified, Spike is sex made flesh?

Spike is such Teh Sex that he has me - a girl who mostly prefers girls to boys - lusting after him big time. So yeah, being reminded that Spike is "sex on a stick" REPEATEDLY? Redundant.

Short? What is this shortness of JM that you speak of? *points to icon made by JM/Spike fan* He is TALL, well taller than me anyway. *snicker* (I'm 5'4" so of course he's tall in comparison to me!) Fortunately I haven't read any fic YET in which he's described as taller than the other guys. Maybe I should write a cracked out bad!fic in which Spike is hit by a spell and becomes a giant, and towers over everyone (even Riley because he always seems HUGE to me).

I LOVE your ficathon idea, particularly when I read you're thinking of starting it in the summer. That will give me lots of time to create a cracked out AU in which Spike is HUGE and Angel has silky hair and wide hips! hee!!!
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[personal profile] lynnenne 2006-03-21 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Who wants to know if germaine_pet just read that right now and had an out of body moment of existential crisis before regaining her sense of identity and floating back to earth on a cloud made of . . . of . . . SEX?

I would tell you, but your question confused me so much that I don't know who I am. Or who I'm having sex with.

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