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Did I get you to click the cut? Did I? Did I?

Is everybody and their mother rewatching BtVS from the beginning? Because about 4 different people have said they were, just recently. We should all do a MASSIVE REWATCH TOGETHER.

So, I was reading about aea's freaky crush on the Rice Krispies guys, and it got me wondering, do you have any erstwhile freaky crushes from way back when? I'm not just talkin' Emilio Estevez (yes, I did, and yes, it's freaky. It was all about Mighty Ducks) I'm talkin' downright weird. Like how I was massively a Baloo/that-bear-woman shipper, from "Talespin," and how there was mental fanfic about that movie star cat lady getting between them. Or like how I was in love with Goliath from Disney's Gargoyles. Stricken because I am still in love with Goliath from Disney's Gargoyles. C'mon, fess up. Freaky crushes.

Reason #859 why I love fandom: because rahirah's post about the size of Angel's schlong made metafandom. Also, dude. Look at us, looking at our navels. We write navel!fic. We ship inny/outy, and write inny/outy porn, sometimes outy/outy porn and inny/inny porn, and sometimes navel fluff, which is nothing like navel lint, because that we pull out of ourselves with a kind of wonderous awe and say, "look! Look! Contrails of my navel!", and navel meta, and navel wars, and navel manips, and navel wank, which is like sticking your finger into your bellybutton and just digging a hole so deep we can see inside your insides and laugh and laugh at all the gooey stuff there, until we turn away in vomitting disgust, and the upchunk so hard we start laughing again, for lo, the same vile goo is in us as is in you! Oh, girls, except not you because you are a man but you're welcome too!, let us hold hands and bare our midriffs, except have nothing like that one creepy commercial 5 years ago where navels kept singing, "I'm Comin' Out," except we WILL be singing that, singing about our undying love for each other, and our midriffs, and our navels, and the size of Angel's schlong.

In other news, I love Buffy. Seriously, I adore that gal. She just--tingles me.

P.S., That AoQ guy I told you about just did a review for IWRY. And you know what, I've said over and over again that I'm just not the biggest fan of that ep, but I think I must be a liar, a total liar, never trust me again, because I'm thinking about it now, and how much I love me my B/A, and how I got to see them perfectly happy but Buffy never did, not really, and the AoQ LIKED it, which just I don't know, makes my navel feel really really full, almost throbbing, like I'm gonna cry, because everything (ok almost everything; he bashes Cordy too much. But the bit about SMG is sarcastic because he really likes her) he says is true, and he doesn't know that Doyle is going to die, and he doesn't know what a great show AtS is yet but he's going to, he's going to (/Yoda) and l_aurens never will because she won't believe me about Connor, and--a-and he gave it an "Excellent," and what was I thinking, ever, it is excellent, because it's BUFFY AND ANGEL KISSING ON A TABLE, and then Doyle dies, and Buffy dies, and Buffy hates herself, and Angel has a son he loves but can't keep, JUST LIKE BUFFY, no Buffy doesn't have a son but you know what I mean, and even though Buffy gets to not be alone in the end it's still sad because she always will be alone, in a way, because that's who she is, and what about Angel in the end, what about Angel and Spike and Gunn and even Illyria, even Illyria damn her because I loved her, her and all of them.

Except Joyce.

/emo

Comments

[tkp.livejournal.com]

the conversation Buffy has in the sewer about how she's trying to move on because she's well aware of the problems, but prefers him. And it's really more mature than people give her credit for.

The conversation in the sewer is really good. I've always hated DB's delivery, though. I never believed him.

She gets points because she means well. She loses points for being really clueless. Like you've said to others, ME's portrayal is part of this.

It's not just because she's clueless, though. She really only seems to mean well when it's not about Joyce and Joyce's feelings and Joyce's life. For Joyce, Buffy always seems to come second. And yeah, they did build her up later to make her death more affecting, but I just accept that as a fatal flaw in lots and lots of story-telling. It's a bad technique, but I see it so often I'm kind of bleep it out. It annoyed me more in earlier seasons when I felt like they were trying to show her being a good mother, or cast her in a sympathetic light, and all it looked like to me was she was fucking up her kid.

[dlgood.livejournal.com]

I guess I never picked up on DB's acting in the scene.

It annoyed me more in earlier seasons when I felt like they were trying to show her being a good mother, or cast her in a sympathetic light, and all it looked like to me was she was fucking up her kid.

I tended not to notice her, in part, because Buffy was stepping past her. Joyce can be a real mixed bag. There are times when she's great - in the scenes with Snyder. But there are scenes where it's off. Where it does come across to me more about Joyce trying to be the role of parent rather than Joyce's genuine involvement with Buffy. I'd probably have to rewatch for that.

[tkp.livejournal.com]

Joyce can be a real mixed bag. There are times when she's great - in the scenes with Snyder.

And sometimes with Spike.

Where it does come across to me more about Joyce trying to be the role of parent rather than Joyce's genuine involvement with Buffy.

Yeah, that's true. They do show Joyce trying, but she always comes off like a grumpy bachelor uncle who's suddenly having to take care of a kid.