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It's been a while, but it's the first of the month, and I have more questions.

How tall is Nicholas Brendon?
Have I asked that before?
Why do they put people on boxes? I like the height differences. Now all I can think about are the boxes.

What's a fanfic remix?
What is "O.o" supposed to represent?

When do you think Cordelia went evil?
When was the first moment you knew you really liked Cordelia as a character?

Do you like Buffy's look in S1? Did you always like it, or did you find it barf worthy and then later learn to love it?
Did Flutie getting eaten shock you?
Does Giles seem really nervous when he first meets Angel? Doesn't he seem like he's acting how I get around someone I think is really really cool or really really hot? Not that you would know how I get but can't you imagine it?
Was there actually a plan for a plot with the Annoying One or was he just set up and then they couldn't figure out what to do with him?
Does anyone know if there were ever any ideas expressed by anyone re: what S6 of AtS may've been if they'd gotten a chance to do it, and if so is there a link to the conversation/whatever it was? Because I'm morbidly curious.

Are Potentials of a certain age? When Willow makes them all Slayers, does she activate little girls who would be, and old women who would've been? Or just gals of a certain age?
What happens when all those activated Slayers die? Is it back to one Slayer dies and another one is called?
Is any of this covered in Fray?

Do you think W&H's/Vail's spell to give Connor a life gets broken when Vail dies/Angel reneges on his deal to "work for" W&H? As in, the false memories disappear and no one has the false memories any more so Connor is pretty much basically back where he started, unless his family is willing to accept him anyway even though they have no memory of him/feelings for him before a year ago, nor he of them?

Did Larry die?
When did Giles invite Angel into his house, so that Angel could get in in "Passions"?
What does the line "I'm the one getting single white femaled here" mean? Is that a dumb question? Am I slow? I just don't get it.
Why do you think they decided to make Drusilla Spike's Sire?

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Also a bit of an academic fascination, because... 250 years old, with a soul, which would be weird and interesting even to someone with just layman's knowledge of history & vampires, but to a Watcher?

Interesting observation! Hadn't considered that aspect of it before.

But if so, just think of how much trouble Herakles caused as a baby. Yeek.

I know! I keep thinking about that, too.

Over 200 years later, Melaka Fray is the first to be Chosen since.

That just gave me shivers.

Although AtS wouldn't have gone this way if it had gotten a 6th season, I think this is as close to a canon resolution for NFA as we're going to get, as well.

Oh! I hadn't been thinking about it that way! Yeah, could try to finagle out of it a reference to NFA.

The memories that Wesley released were just backup files of a previous draft.

Still seems to me the SP could go reinstate that previous draft. I mean, they're evil. Angel kinda sorta betrayed them. Seems the thing to do. Not that I'm saying I think it happened that way.

No, the sleeves are too long, but not by much.

I always felt like the shoulders were to broad, but it's possible I just don't know how a coat like that is supposed to fit.

I wonder where she got it?

Interesting question! Never thought about it--wouldn't it be cool if she herself got it off another vamp?

That just gave me shivers.
Joss' concept or my phrasing?

Still seems to me the SP could go reinstate that previous draft.
Theoretically. But if they did, it wouldn't be instigated by Vail's death, even if it were that kind of spell, as I seem to remember something about multiple mages backing him up on the actual casting. And without Vail, W&H would have to find a new sorcerer, something I imagine would be rather difficult. It could take weeks, even months, and wouldn't be very cost effective. A more likely possibility is that they'd do a wholesale memory wipe, essentially making Connor normal again to everyone. Which isn't very fun, storywise, but seems like the better business decision. Not that the Senior Partners reneging the deal is an uninteresting idea, just that I think it would be hard to pull off so that I would believe it.

I could say more on this and other subjects, or maybe just rewrite this so it makes sense, but I have to go to bed before I pass out on the keyboard.

Yeah, this could have made more sense than it did. S'pose that's what I get for commenting that late at night...

When I said "weeks, even months," I wasn't referring to just finding a new spellcaster (although that plays into it), I was thinking in terms of preparing the spell (although it was enacted within about a day in "Home," I imagine W&H had been planning this a while, and commissioned the spell well in advance of approaching Angel).
And the bit about the ways (alright, way) that W&H could reneg was clearly written by a very tired brain and I'm not motivated enough to try and make sense of it without further prodding. Let's just say that there are lots of interesting ways to screw with Angel and Connor that I didn't even start to write about, and one of them is turning Connor into a nonentity as far as Angel's concerned.

Over 200 years later, Melaka Fray is the first to be Chosen since.

And you wanna know how the Slayer ends the fight?

From what I've read (since I have't read Fray), she jumps into a Portal to a Hell Dimension or something, which pretty much takes all magic away from this Plane and traps the Slayer on the other Plane, so it looks like JW never planed for a happy ending for Buffy, more of a NFA'esque one.

It's one of the things JW has said he wants to deal with in the new BTVS S8 comics, since Fray is supposedly canon.

And if the SP could reinstate the old memories (I don't think they changed reality, just memories, otherwise they could anything they damned well please and would be impossible to beat, since they could just change the past) they'd probably hold onto that possibility to make sure Angel would behave, they wouldn't get rid of such an important "hostage", sure Angel betrayed them, but would he do it again if it meant his son's life?

And if the SP could reinstate the old memories (I don't think they changed reality, just memories, otherwise they could anything they damned well please and would be impossible to beat, since they could just change the past) they'd probably hold onto that possibility to make sure Angel would behave, they wouldn't get rid of such an important "hostage", sure Angel betrayed them, but would he do it again if it meant his son's life?

Two excellent points!

And you wanna know how the Slayer ends the fight?
You know what the best part about comics is? It's a hell of a lot easier to refer to specific events than it is with a TV show (or it is if you have a copy in your possession). In the book, it isn't explained how she did it. Somehow, a portal was opened and all the demons were sent home. All magical power on Earth was eradicated at the same time (my theory is that it was used up opening/sending the demons through the portal). What happened to the Slayer after/during that is unknown, and as the narrator for that bit was kind of in a position to know if she'd been wandering around in the Hell dimension, I don't think any portal-jumping occurred. Of course, it is quite possible that you've read/seen some interview where Joss says otherwise, but that was my perception.

I don't think they changed reality, just memories, otherwise they could anything they damned well please and would be impossible to beat, since they could just change the past
I get your point to some extent, plotwise, but I didn't say that changing reality was easy, or something to be taken lightly, even by the Senior Partners. By the same note, altering that many memories that well would have, IMO, basically the same effect in the "impossible to beat" equation. Also, my take on Vail's spell directly hinges on my perception of the events of "Home": what I saw (and I haven't encountered anything to contradict this) was that Connor was dead. Angel killed him. Now, the camera cut away before the knife/fist hit, so how that scene ended is up to the audience. But as far as I'm concerned, it ended with a slit throat and the Father-Will-Kill-the-Son prophecy bit fulfilled.
That said, there are still lots of ways that W&H could make Angel's life a living hell, many of which involve using Connor against him, but they'd be a lot more complicated than just undoing Vail's spell/reinstating old memories (more fun with individual perceptions: I think that the latter happened in "Origin").

By the same note, altering that many memories that well would have, IMO, basically the same effect in the "impossible to beat" equation.

I don't think so, especially since the altering memory thing is examined elsewhere in canon. The monks recreate everyone's memories in order to get Buffy to protect Key. So, the monks have a lot of power, but their methods are not infallible. Everyone finds out their memories are false--including the one from whom the monks wanted to protect the Key. Although those memories aren't eradicated, it says to me altering memory isn't exactly the epitome of power, as altering reality would be.

Then again, there's IWRY to consider, in which it's explicitly stated that the PTB alter reality. But in that instance, the PTB turn back reality, but it's Angel who rewrites it by doing something different. So it's not so much that the PTB alter reality as go back in time to create the possibility that it could be altered, which isn't necessarily possible with Connor because Connor will always be the spawn of two vampires, new memories or not. And since Connor still has his special powers after "Home", that seems to suggest that Connor is still Darla and Angel's son, whereas if reality had been rewritten he would REALLY be the Reilly's son and have no super powers.

When you kill vampires, they go poof and take their clothing with them. Maybe the jacket originally belonged to Robin's father.

Oops, forgot the clothing poof thing. Buffy loses more stakes that way.

It makes me sad to think it was Robin's father's. Poor little kid.

Yup. I've always assumed Nikki Wood was a single mother. What I can't decide is whether it was a case of her and the father having had a breakup, or whether the father had been killed by a monster.

I'm pretty sure he appears in Nikki's segment of the "Tales of the Slayers" comic. She'd been with the guy in there for a while (a year, I think), she'd been a Slayer for longer, and there was no mention of her having a kid at the time of the story. He was an NYPD narcotics cop, and his name was Lu (Chinese descent). He didn't know about vampires, let alone that his lover was a Slayer. Although it might be possible that she moved on to someone else, I doubt it. The artwork was a very true to life style, and Lu really looked like he could be Robin's dad. ::is sad::

As a side note, I don't think the duster belonged to him (I did consider it). My reasoning is very thin, and wouldn't hold up to an even half-hearted argument, but there it is.

Father killed by a monster!

I always go for the more heart-rending conclusion.

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