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Questions Post #15
FANDOM/LJ
A. Is there such a thing as an Real Person vid? I remember there was one about JM set to Pretty Fly For A White Guy, but is that...a "done" thing, to make vids about the actors themselves?
B. Is there a lot of Mary Sue RPF? Like Mary Sue meets Mister Actor at a con or something and they get it on? I don't want to read any; I'm just curious. I would think there would be but I've never seen any.
C. What's the deal with pro writers who don't like fanfiction? Where do they get off? I guess I mean that kinda literally.
D. Is there Batman/Gordon fic? Where?
E. How do you feel about...having the general subject of a post in brackets in the subject line? For instance, a post titled, "[meta] Can Soulless Spike Be Redeemed". Do you do that, the "[meta]" part? Have you done it? Have you thought about doing it? When you see other people do it, does it make you feel a certain way? It always makes me think: "I should do that! Then I would have to go back and do that to every post. Dear god, am I really that anal? Is that person as anal as I am? OMG I'M NOT ORGANIZED" *frantic hyperventilating and quick scrolling past the post* Not really, but something like that.
F. Is it just me, or are fics longer in the HP fandom? Is this just because there is *more* fic overall, so more fics-that're-long are available?
G. Um. Will someone rec me, I mean, my friend, some long long long Harry-16-or-older Snape/Harry? NO I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING EITHER.
H. Why am I fannish about Horatio Hornblower? Why am I so in love with Horatio/William Bush? Why do I so often fall for small fandoms in which people have not written nearly enough porn? Why?
BUFFYVERSE
I. What do Eve and Lindsey think to gain by putting the slug thing on Angel in "Soul Purpose"?
J. Why isn't VK is S5? Seriously. Was it a money issue, a people not liking Connor issue, the writers not knowing what to do with Connor issue, or really just for the sake of plot issue?
K. Does the idea of the S8 BtVS comics make anyone else sad? It depresses me and for the life of me I can't figure out why. I would not be upset if there was an S6 of AtS. I mean, I'm glad that there'll be L. more Buffy and that Whedon is doing it, but it feels kinda bittersweet to me, and that makes me feel like I'm being a spoil sport.
M. Can you name all the episodes of AtS and BtVS? If you can't, can you at least recognize all the episode names? If you can't, about how many ep names per season would you say you know? When I first got into this fandom I was shocked by how many people seemed to know the names of eps, but now most of the time when someone says one I know which ep they're talking about.
N. Could the dimension Angel goes to to get Jasmine's name be Quar'toth? The timing doesn't work out, huh?
RANDOM
O. Do you like Rachel Ray?
P. Do you like Oprah?
FIC
Q. How often do you read fanfiction somewhere that is not your home/not somewhere where you usually use your computer? The other day I brought some fanfic to read while I waited for my Granny's hair to get done (I'm her driver.) I was embarrassed 'cause there was porn in some. I usually only read fanfic at home/school.
R. Do you mentally edit other people's fics when you read them?
S. How many days after you post a fic do you feel like the fic probably got most of the fb it's going to recieve?
T. How much do you edit your fic in the post window/Semagic/other client? This is assuming you write your fic in a word processor. Is it just select all, copy, paste, and go? Or is it C&P and then add code? C&P and one last edit? C&P and add header info?
U. How much do you think about the A/N? Do you only think/write it after you finish, or do you sometimes compose it in your head/write it as you write your fic?
V. What does an A/N Mean To You, anyway?
W. Why are forced marriage fics (fics where people get sold into marriage, or have to marry to prevent something stupid, or have to take up a pretense of marriage, etc) so compelling? I ask this as one who reads summaries about forced marriages and sniffs like the arrogant bitch that I am, then turns around and reads them. There are some freaking great ones out there, but I wonder why this plot in itself is so attractive? 'Cause it sounds stupid, and yet I find myself drawn.
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This seems to depend a lot on who you ask. VK says that it was partially plot-drive (i.e., adding Spike to the mix stirred things up in interesting ways)and partially driven by the overwhelming hatred of Connor by fans (my words, not his).
Initially, the way things played out was that during the early Spring of....um, JESUS *2003*? Is that right? Ohmygod. Anyways. During the early spring of 2003, there was a lot of talk (again) about how expensive AtS was getting for the WB. Jordan Levin in particular had some kind of bee up his butt about the show or about Whedon or about the show and Whedon. Something. BtVS was wrapping up, and there were a lot of rumors about JM jumping over to AtS after BtVS was over. (You should have seen LJ during that Spring. I think there officially too many wanks to record.)
So, around the end of April, early May, ME started officially leaking info on JM's participation on AtS, to get a feel for fan reaction and so that they could give some numbers to the WB about how much they could expect viewership to increase due to Spike's presence. Spike was initally rumored to be signed up for 12 episodes, and then we heard that JM had said that he wouldn't come on board or anything less than a full season (I don't blame him in the least). I don't know if you were around for this period of time, but the fan reaction towards Spike was the biggest thing I've ever seen in fandom. Jossverse was the biggest fandom in the world (XF was finally waning and HP hadn't hit it huge yet, if memory serves) and Spike was the biggest character in it. Conversely, Connor was almost universally hated and had been since the moment he was born (actually the moment the idea of him was announced, but I digress). Connor-hatred was really the one thing almost everyone could agree on about s4, which is interesting to think about in a post-"Origin" world. It also makes me angry (still) because the end of April/beginning of May corresponded to the last five or so episodes of s4, which is when fan reaction towards Connor started shifting a bit. In the perserve way that fandom can be sometimes, it took Connor revealing that he'd known about Jasmine the whole time to get fans to start trusting him. The whole, Holtz-used-to-tie-me-to-a-tree-and-leave-me-there-to-either-die-or-escape thing seemed to garner some sympathy as well, as did the church scene in "Peace Out." All in all, despite threats of cancellation and wishy-washy feelings about having Spike on the show at all aside, things were looking pretty optimistic. Whedon himself said in a TV Guide article in early May that no one was leaving the show, that rumors of Charisma Carpenter and/or Vincent Kartheiser being fired were wholly unfound. May 8th, "Home" aired. May 12th, they made the announcement that JM was going to become a full member of the show, and CC and VK were out. You're lucky you did not know me during this time. I was INSANE with grief. I left the fandom. I still haven't seen the first ten episode of s5. I still think that Vincent Kartheiser was fired to make financial room for James Marsters. In the perverse way that fandom is somtimes, I enjoy nothing more than writing stories about how these two guys, whose lives almost intersected, and whose success that one year was dependent on the failure of the other, have a lot of buttsex.
The end.
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Of course, ME did everything the network asked for, and the ratings shot up by 20 per cent, and the WB STILL cancelled the fucking show; because they were too cheap to pay the extra money that production companies traditionally demand after a five-year run, when they're officially allowed to syndicate.
Yes, I am bitter.
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*kinda boggles* Then again, as I understand it, lots of people hate that season.
So ME had to get rid of two actors in order to pay for the one that the network was insisting upon.
It's going to sound sour, but couldn't they've gotten rid of Hallett?
Yes, I am bitter.
Preachin' to the choir, babe.
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Not that I mind that Marsters came on board; obviously, as a shipper, I loved having him there. I just would have liked to have seen Spike and Connor on screen together. It would have made for some fantastic storylines. Plus, VK + JM = acting talent times 10.
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And then we got S4. CC apparently hated her entire storyline, and refused to go with the ending they had in mind (Connor and/or Angel killing Possessed!Cordy in an all-out battle) by saying she wasn't physically up to a big fight scene. And then we have the writers saying that oh, well, they couldn't bring Cordy out of the coma because there was no way to make the character sympathetic again after all that icky Concord stuff, which they just sort of got carried away with and wrote in by mistake, heh heh, so they had to write her out.
Since both sides have (laudably) refused to air their dirty laundry in public, I don't think we'll ever know the whole story. But there's enough smoke to make me think that there was some fire somewhere.
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actually the moment the idea of him was announced, but I digress
It's stupid to judge something you haven't seen or don't know how will play out, but I admit that when I was first spoiled for AtS, I thought the idea of Connor was stupid. I thought it sounded very similar to what I was spoiled for about Dawn, which I also thought was stupid. It was how Connor came about and was introduced in the show, and then later the acting ability of VK that made me realize I'd been pretty stupid to judge.
which is interesting to think about in a post-"Origin" world
What do you mean?
It also makes me angry (still) because the end of April/beginning of May corresponded to the last five or so episodes of s4, which is when fan reaction towards Connor started shifting a bit. In the perserve way that fandom can be sometimes, it took Connor revealing that he'd known about Jasmine the whole time to get fans to start trusting him. The whole, Holtz-used-to-tie-me-to-a-tree-and-leave-me-there-to-either-die-or-escape thing seemed to garner some sympathy as well, as did the church scene in "Peace Out."
On the last rewatch, it seemed to me as though the writers were working harder to make the audience understand Connor during those eps, too. There were several other littler things than the Holtz-tied-me-to-trees thing that seemed to be trying to actively remind the audience where exactly Connor was coming from: his, "what's a houdini?" line comes to mind, little stuff like that.
You're lucky you did not know me during this time.
All I can say is I'm glad I know you now ;o)
whose lives almost intersected, and whose success that one year was dependent on the failure of the other,
I never thought about it that way.
The end.
Again, thanks.