The thing is I sorta feel like I can write crack for something like Batman. Because it's Batman. But even though what I'm writing for Godfather is total crack, I feel worse about it because the canon is subject matter based on real life horribleness, and it's not romantic at all, and I don't see it as romantic, but I wanna write meaningless crack about it anyway. I know all our stories don't have to have hidden depths, but I feel like certain subject matters demand it. Batman doesn't, neither does HP or POTO. Sometimes I did feel this way about SoM, though, but it was easier because Sound of Music is about the good guys, and even if it's crack the bad guys are appropriately villainized, I mean even though there's singing.
well, the bats/commish was supposed to be meaningless and I think turned out quite thoughtful.
But the Godfather I've written so far is all "Tom is an orphan it's so so sad!!!"
The Godfather fic I wrote in 2005 and posted on ff.n was a bit more respectable, imo. At least it wasn't about how much I want to smish and romanticize orphans and boy prostitutes. I mean, come on.
They need healthy romances though, that deal with their issues and treat their problems as real. They do not need twisted little-brother-who-weirdly-sometimes-surrogates-as-father-figure fucking them through the floor, jerking them around, making them feel worthless, ruthlessly using their helplessly loyal love and stunted emotional growth and neediness to make them into instruments of destruction and unquestioning servitude.
I told you about the novel I wanna write where the heroine keeps wishing she was an orphan, not because she doesn't think her parents are just great, but because nothing happens to kids who aren't orphans. I think the fictional idea of orphans is just something other people are automatically interested in, though the reality is quite different.
Oh yeah, absolutely. And I think a story where the heroine thinks this is entirely appropriate. Like Mulder saying he always wished he had a peg leg, because then no matter what you do it's an accomplishment. It's not right, of course, but it's illuminating that he thinks that, even idly.
But I think we've talked about this before--the need to remove parents (fictionally) so that the protagonist can either have adventures or get into major trouble. And if they don't grow up, like Annie, this never has any major consequences. If they do grow up, I think you run into a problem where you have to write it really, really well or it's exploitation.
Well, so the protagonist can have adventures, get in trouble, and have immediate sympathy.
I think the things we are discussing is one reason I like the fantasy genre so much. If the world itself isn't real, I don't feel the need for real life situations to be treated realistically.
At that same time, isn't it nice when you can see reality reflected in fantasy? But it does give a distance to it, so you can sort of "matte out" the stuff you don't want to address and focus on what you want.
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The thing is I sorta feel like I can write crack for something like Batman. Because it's Batman. But even though what I'm writing for Godfather is total crack, I feel worse about it because the canon is subject matter based on real life horribleness, and it's not romantic at all, and I don't see it as romantic, but I wanna write meaningless crack about it anyway. I know all our stories don't have to have hidden depths, but I feel like certain subject matters demand it. Batman doesn't, neither does HP or POTO. Sometimes I did feel this way about SoM, though, but it was easier because Sound of Music is about the good guys, and even if it's crack the bad guys are appropriately villainized, I mean even though there's singing.
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But per our discussion the other day about appropriate writing matters... Are you so sure your meaningless crack wouldn't have hidden depths?
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But the Godfather I've written so far is all "Tom is an orphan it's so so sad!!!"
The Godfather fic I wrote in 2005 and posted on ff.n was a bit more respectable, imo. At least it wasn't about how much I want to smish and romanticize orphans and boy prostitutes. I mean, come on.
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Don't boy prostitutes need romance, too?
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OMG I LOVE THEM.
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But yeah, you're a horrible person. (And remember who this is coming from, orphan-story-wise.)
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*vigorous nod, ending in hanging head of shame*
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I told you about the novel I wanna write where the heroine keeps wishing she was an orphan, not because she doesn't think her parents are just great, but because nothing happens to kids who aren't orphans. I think the fictional idea of orphans is just something other people are automatically interested in, though the reality is quite different.
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But I think we've talked about this before--the need to remove parents (fictionally) so that the protagonist can either have adventures or get into major trouble. And if they don't grow up, like Annie, this never has any major consequences. If they do grow up, I think you run into a problem where you have to write it really, really well or it's exploitation.
Damn I like exploitation sometimes.
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I think the things we are discussing is one reason I like the fantasy genre so much. If the world itself isn't real, I don't feel the need for real life situations to be treated realistically.
HEE MULDER. Is obviously awesome.
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