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It's Lion Turtles all the way down ([personal profile] lettered) wrote2007-08-06 11:25 pm

Oh, so, I meant that, about good bye.

Thought about it a lot, and I'm leaving Livejournal.

That's all dramatic and stuff, but I probably won't be gone until the end of the year. If most people decide to leave, and there's a mass exodus before then, I may be gone earlier. But this journal, my fic journal, and my private backup journal will be gone for certain by January 1, 2008.

I have a lot of stuff to say about the whole LJ/6A debacle, but for some reason every time I start a post on it I just have to get up and walk away from it, give it some time, read lots and lots of Harry/Draco, spend time with my family, or eat ice cream. Can't decide whether I'm too angry about it, depressed perhaps, lazy maybe, or possibly I'm an ostrich? Anyway, during the strikeout in May I felt very energized, but maybe that was because I thought that it was possible that LJ had made a mistake, and after hearing customer complaints, would fix it. In other words, I knew I was going to give Livejournal another chance. Well, I did, but I am still displeased as a customer. So, I take my business elsewhere.

I don't know where. One of the reasons I'm staying on LJ for another few months is that I want to see how many other people leave and where they go. Even if a lot of you leave (which I sekritly hope you will), it will not be all at once, and LJ will still be the place to be in the thick of fandom things for a while. If there is a mass movement, decision making, support/rallying/reasearch/etc to be done, I want to be involved. And if people are going to continue to discuss the issues connected to why I'm leaving, I want to be a part of those discussions. Because I do have a lot to say, and I want to say it to my flist, people who I'm interested in having around wherever I end up.

I'm going to back up the journals I have here and copy them to Insane Journal for now. I'm going to be cross-posting to Insane Journal (where I am tkp) and possibly Journal Fen over the next several months. I hope to gradually phase out: to just post links to fic here, instead of actual fics here, etc. Then I will be gone. I know I can make myself do that, but I know I can't make myself never visit LJ again. If you do decide to stay and not post elsewhere, I may still visit from time to time, but I will not have an account here ever again. I don't want to lose touch with any of you. I mean, well, except you; you're always talking about your grandmother's corns.

So, um, this isn't quite yet goodbye, and won't be for a while. Mostly I'm just posting this because once I say I'll do something, I'll do it. And now I've said it.

Okay, now that announcements are over: what're your thoughts? Leavin' on a jet plane? Why? Staying, why? Cat macros? Why not? Where are you going, if you go, where're you lookin' at, what are your hopes and dreams for fandom future? What did you think of the last ep of Mad Men? Is Jason Isaacs the man, or what? How 'bout that burr86, Barak, and Brad? Does the news comm make you laugh, cry, headdesk, or wha...? Did anyone even like the first two Bourne movies? What's your favorite pizza delivery service? Do you think Livejournal would disallow canon!Buffy/Angel fanart? How come I can't spell misogyny? What's the difference between a psychiatrist and a psychologist? And the number one question all of us are asking: how come Buffy never wore the go-go boots again?

[identity profile] diachrony.livejournal.com 2007-08-07 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
Well, if I choose another journal as my "main" journal it is totally NOT going to be GreatestJournal. Nor will it be JournalFen. (Yes I have a paid JF account but ... nah.)

I'd pick InsaneJournal as my main journal, if I "move" in that sense.

However, I am really enjoying Semagic as a cross-posting tool and I wouldn't leave LJ altogether, because it seems like half my f'list isn't even fannish and won't be leaving.

And since IJ and GJ (I think JF as well) allow responding to comments via email, it won't be that difficult to keep up with folks. Yes, checking different journal friendslists may be a little awkward but even that not so much with the Firefox tabs system.

I *am* however seriously leaning towards not renewing my paid account when it expires. I may revert to Basic w/o ads. After all, I can put 500 iconses on my IJ and they won't vanish or become unusable like they would at GJ. And that's good enough for keeping up with everyone here. And I balk at the idea of giving LJ more of my money. Bah.

Mere rumor so far: 6A may be looking for a new buyer, and this new buyer, who knows, may be more fandom friendly?

Papa John's is my fave pizza delivery service because they make the best pizzas and they deliver reliably within a half hour.

LJ would only disallow canon!Buffy/Angel fanart if Mutant Enemy bitched about it, I'm thinkin'.

You can spell misogyny. You just did, there.

Psychiatrists and psychologists have different degrees and only one of them is allowed to dispense medicines in-office. Um, which is which? I should be going to bed so I won't be googling this up right now ...

Awww, Buffy in go-go boots. ::hearts::

Well, they really looked kinda high-school cheerleaderish and just not right for the more mature adult Buffy, wouldn't you say?

Besides, she probably wore them for Riley. "There might be outfits."

Heh heh heh ...

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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2007-08-07 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
No way on GF for me too. I dislike a few things about JF as well, though am now the proud owner of a shiny account.

I think that as someone who has RL people not interested in fandom on your list, you have a lot more reason to stay than I. If I were you, I'd totally be keeping LJ to keep in touch with those people.

I balk at giving LJ anything! So, solidarity.

Haven't heard that rumor about 6A, interesting!

Haven't had Papa John's in ages! My favorite thing about them is they give you a bucket of grease. Oh god I'm hungry.

ust not right for the more mature adult Buffy,

Totally agree, though that makes me sad! I liked how crazy her clothes were.

Besides, she probably wore them for Riley. "There might be outfits."

HEE. Nothin' but the boots...

[identity profile] diachrony.livejournal.com 2007-08-07 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
From what I've been reading, if we want to make a "point" to 6A/LJ, it's not a good idea to delete accounts. I understand blogging sites *love* it if you do that 'cause it frees up their space. The better way to make a point is to keep an account, but knock it to Basic w/o ads, so they don't get revenue from ads and they can't use your space.

ALSO ... if you want to be able to check in with the people who are staying at LJ, you'll need an account and to stay on their friendslists so that you can read their f'locked posts. Practically my entire flist posts under friendslock a good 80% of the time and with the latest behavior from our Corporate Overlords, this f'locking is only likely to increase.

Even if people x-post everywhere and you see their posts at IJ, you might miss good conversations in comments if you can't see an f'locked thread on LJ.

So ... I think you should keep that option open.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2007-08-07 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't want to make a point to 6A/LJ. 1) I don't think I could, and 2) I don't care enough about them to "teach them a lesson".

I'm leaving LJ because I do not think I will get the service I want here. That is all.

I am, of course, saddened by the thought of missing some things because they are under flock. But I've already weighed the pros and cons, and have made this decision.

[identity profile] diachrony.livejournal.com 2007-08-07 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Not a problem then! Just thought it might be something you hadn't considered.

When you move, I'll be seeing you around IJ ... and I'm sure you will let me know where all the fic is.

(I have a batch of the Groundhog Day fic chapters to catch up on!)