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It's Lion Turtles all the way down ([personal profile] lettered) wrote2008-07-30 11:17 pm

I give up.



Hahaha I bet you thought you'd be getting porn.

So I've been trying to write this whole post about Super Hero Ethics and the problems I have with TDK. There were things I really loved that they brought into it, but the way they handled some of those concepts was disturbing to me. Not on the level it was meant to be disturbing, but on the level of: "I do not think that means what you think it means!" But after seeing it a second time, and complaining about it AGAIN to [livejournal.com profile] my_daroga, I feel better about it. She is, after all, usually right. I do not think they handled these issues as badly as I keep making out like they did.

But anyway, I'm not posting about that. I'm also not posting about the fact that the movie was so crowded with themes and the characters so stuffed with symbolism that it felt less like a story with people than an allegory with concepts. Which is nice, for a change, but for something to be really brilliant I like it when they manage to be both.

But this post isn't about that! It's about how in my head, there's so much going on here that I want to explore. The movie was great, but it has it's faults, and those faults make me want to get my teeth on it that much more. Sort of like Harry Potter, how JKR is disturbingly unsympathetic to villains for whom grounds for compassion is all so neatly erected. Or like how I love Phantom of the Opera most in my head--I like the musical; I like the book; I even like that Kay thing to an extent, but the Version That Lives is the Phantom Of The Opera that's there, inside my mind. (See how I did that? With the lyrics?)

But this post isn't about that! It's about the porn.

Okay, not just porn. Fic. I want movie-verse Batman fic. And while I've always loved Batman what I'm really interested in (right now! Right now! I'm open! Wide open, like your mom James Marsters a green field with Captain Jack in it. Only, later.) right now is movie-verse. It's only been out a week and a half but it has to have been done. Come on. I'm counting on you guys.

So anything that you might have stumbled across. Since there can't be that much right now, I truly do mean anything even if it wasn't that great or you haven't read it. ETA: Er. Nevermind. Only rec if you know of something GOOD. Turns out there's LOADS. This fandom is scary, y'all. Especially these emo fangirls who're all like, "OMG, stupid NOOBZ!!!!1 No one knows anything about Batman except me!!!!1 Didn't you know there was like, a cartoon?!?!!!?!" /ETA

Also, does anyone know of any comms, especially daily news letters, that link to Batman!new!movieverse?

Also, there needs to be:

Batman(Bruce Wayne)/Joker
Batman(Bruce Wayne)/Harvey Dent (Two Face)
Bruce Wayne/Rachel
Bruce Wayne/Harvey Dent/Rachel
Batman(Bruce Wayne)/Harvey Dent (Two Face)/[Rachel as absent third]
Harvey Dent (Two Face)/Joker
Gordon/Batman(Bruce Wayne)
Gordon/Harvey Dent (Two Face)
Alfred/Batman(Bruce Wayne) [unrequited]
Alfred/Lucius Fox/[Batman(Bruce Wayne) as absent third]
Jim Gordon/Sirius Black
HOLTZ/everyone

Any help would be appreciated.

[identity profile] romanyg.livejournal.com 2008-07-31 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
First off: HI! HI!

I'm behind in my own comments so this is a comment of STEALTH! And skewed priorities. *g*

I haven't seen TDK yet, but I'm spoiled, so that's okay. Also, this means that this response is relatively useless. I haven't been reading much Nolan!verse fic lately (because I'm one of those crazy Bruce/Clark people, and in Nolan!verse there ain't no such animal) so I can't rec any. As far as the comms, I see that you're already watching [livejournal.com profile] gotham_times, which is probably your best bet in terms of newsletters. [livejournal.com profile] comicstore_news also lists Nolan!verse fic but I'm sure that it pretty much overlaps with what you'll find in GT. You probably also have checked out [livejournal.com profile] batfic, [livejournal.com profile] batman_slash, and [livejournal.com profile] darkknightfic. I have nothing new for you! *sadness*

I'm excited that you're excited though. I hope you find something that gives you that AHA, YES!
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2008-08-01 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
HEE. Hi! How are you! I immediately thought of you when I did this post. I think that if I step into Batman fandom through Nolanverse I'll probably enjoy myself more. I've always LOVED Batman but I never really was interested in fic about it, even though I knew it was out there. It wasn't until now, really. But I've always wanted to give your comic fic a try. I'm...not a Clark or Superman fan and never have been, but it's you so it's probably awesome.

Thanks for the comms!
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2008-08-01 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Also, you should see TDK when you get a chance.

Because what if it inspires you and then you write movieverse fic?

[identity profile] romanyg.livejournal.com 2008-08-02 07:35 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I really want to see it, get into all the meta I see floating about and the glee. Plus, I have icons!

I see your evil plan. Maybe? *g* But I have to see it because *you* might write fic and I will want to *read* it.