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It's Lion Turtles all the way down ([personal profile] lettered) wrote2005-11-14 11:13 pm

FIC: Down There In The Reeperbahn

Title: Down There In The Reeperbahn
Length: Around 2,000 words again. Yay!
Rating: Hard R or NC-17.
Warnings: Um, everything? Slash, rape, and pedophilia but very non-graphic. Implications of incest, but strangely metaphoric. Um, cross-dressing? The kitchen sink.
Disclaimer: Uses dialogue from AtS S1.15, 3.8, 3.9, 4.1, and 4.22. Title is from a song by Tom Waits, also several ideas. Nursery rhymes gone wild.
Summary: Angelus, Darla, and a strangely androgynous man-child. Also, Drusilla.
A/N: 1. The Reeperbahn is a street near the Port of Hamburg historically infamous for prostitution.
2. This might not even be a fic. It's rhymey and strange, and, and, and, weird. It's not how I normally write at all. Frankly, I usually don't like this kind of writing, so this is out there for me. Probably you too. Who knows?
3. Much thanks to [livejournal.com profile] a2zmom for making me feel not as scared about posting it. Though am still nervousy. 'Cause as I mentioned? Strange.



~Hamburg, 1867~

Lift your skirts ladies, when walking the Reeperbahn; the cobblestones, they’re infants’ heads. Heels go clickety-clack to tap them flat, and a face disappears from a window. Under the sign you’ll find a washed out mother, spreading her legs for the bread and butter; don’t mind, don’t mind, she was past her prime, and Daddy likes them new.

Born on a Tuesday, the boy’s fresh to the block, wearing pantalets and a chemise. With shy thighs and blue sky eyes he summons the sailors, bids them bring their muscled arms in tow. Down from the docks, salty and raw, they’ll ram in his port; the world is nothing but meat. Take yours tonight, so you can buy some tomorrow: mutton and scraps for the family, children. And the next night will come, and more men will pay to pound the babes, pound them right into the floor. Told you about those cobbles, sweet.

Heart beat like hare’s legs, he waits to be hips to fill another man’s hands. It’s for the money, but his father still calls him a queer. Granmummy’s eyes light up when they light on him, and she won’t do any such thing. She’ll call him dear—dear, dear boy, and he will be hers, her own. “See-saw, Margery Daw, Jacky shall have a new master”; that’s how we say it in England, but Mummy won’t pay, not a penny a day, because Jacky can’t fuck faster than she can kill. She will inherit him proper, she will, her little boy warm in her belly for free.

Will the dear, dear boy come in out of the cold? Daddy’s coaxing tender, and the boy, mouth-watering, follows, side by side inside the broken down bar with nothing but birds in the rafters. Will the dear, dear boy sit down and rest? . . .Will the dear, dear boy take off his dress?

Up goes the garment, up off his chest; up goes the cock, and tightening balls; up pop two demon faces—peek-a-boo, young man. My, my, what big bumps on their faces; my, my what large teeth. The little boy ogles, to see such a sight, and with a cry he runs from the room. Mummy grabs; he’s eel-wet, slick; he kicks hard, vicious fists his way free from her grasp. Daddy lunges, but he was too far, and the boy runs out to the moon.

Struck by their failure: I thought you had him; no, it was you. Your fault, not mine; he was yours. He was yours; not mine; he was yours. Mummy says: you gave him to me; you served him up to me; you brought him inside—

of me—

“You're the one that came in here all 'the world is a cold and lonely place.'”

“Is she saying this is my fault?”

“She’s having a vision.”

“About me?”

“You always think they’re about you.”

“I’m the one that came in her—first. Except she was warm the first—”

“He’s getting away. Do you want Dru’s riddles or the man-child’s neck? Your choice, my darling boy.”

Back down the Reeperbahn, hop, skip, jump, there’s more of this story down the throat of this road. The buildings are teeth, and women swallowed whole lounge on tongue beside cheek; they charge three pieces a lick. Their bleeding gums slick up their tonsils as the swallowed women swallow you down, as the swallowed ones swallow you down. A fish eats a fish eats a fish eats a fish—

Hook ‘im. Speed down the boy, his rose petal lips and heart-shaped hips; feet down the pavement, clickity-clackity-click. He’s up front, half-naked, slipping, two-stepping ladies and flit-footing through men. Sing: “Dance to your daddy, my bonnie laddie; dance to your daddy, my bonnie lamb. You shall have a fishy in a little dishy; you shall have a fishy when the boat comes in.” Mummy and Daddy shall have their little fishy so they can come in him. Almost caught up—

Keep him in sight. Ring-around the left-side, short-cut through the ropes’ barn, catch ‘im, thrash ‘im—they all fall down! Beat him by the head; he’s fighting something fierce; drag him to the hôtel; no one will notice in the Reeperbahn. You’ll go straight to your chains when we get there, young man; no supper tonight! Now you’re more than a meal: Mummy liked you when you ran, and Daddy liked you when you fought—now Mummy wants to fuck you, and Daddy wants to watch. Home again home again, jiggety jig. You were a little fishy, but now you are big.

Headed for a ride, she climbs on top, laughing at the struggle—but when the boy is inside . . . when a boy is inside, Mummy: humanity shall be within you; a soul, akin to you; life living in your dead skin.

Deep within you he’ll come,

out of you:

he’ll butt against your womb and grow, grow. A man inside you becomes a son becomes a man, and expanding, he’ll bump against your heart and thump it: one, two what should you do; three, four, open the flood gates. As your water rushes out, love rushes in, a give-and-take you’ve never known, because coming together is something you never ever do. Three times Daddy’ll come in all the world is a cold and lonely place, but you’ll never come with him. The world is a lonely place.

The world is your cunt is an alley, rainy and dark; his dick was his -and-take is your stake; your child is your give-and- your final climax. You won’t know your son; Daddy won’t know him for years to come, but for the first time in your long-long-short (23”) lives, you will each know grace.

As hard as you ride, as long as you drive—the Reeperbahn boy on his back, his body a heart-beat inside—the young, the innocent, the living survive. Give, Darla, and take yourself: a death for a birth, a life for a life, ashes to ashes, and dust to man forming from the dust, breathing the breath of life—because for love, you’ll die.

“What do you have to offer a child, a human child, besides ugly death?”

“That’s kind of the point, Dru. Eventually. Angelus, can’t you—I don’t know—take her in the other room? She’s killing the mood.”

“But I love it when she does this.”

“And you don’t think you’ll ever love anything as much as this boy’s life, inside of you right now.”

“That’s disgusting. Get off of me, boy. Get off!”

“Once he’s gone, you won't be alright. You don’t know what you’ll be.”

“Hold your tongue!”

“No need to get worked up. Dru’s just being . . . oh, Biblical. You were made by men and now you create them.”

And they create you.

“Ooooh! He finally stopped kicking!”

“You can play with him while he sleeps, Dru. We know how you like that.”

Down on the Reeperbahn, a father is calling his son. Nothing but children, he cries; they’re nothing but children: boys and girls, girls and boys, and this is play. The soft pink cunts and piss yellow curls, the big black ships and the tiny young dicks—they’re toys, the way children treat them: break them, throw them away, leave them to get gnawed on by dogs in the morning. If the father had known it was only a game, he would have never let his son come: the evil of children is the purest of cruelty, and hide-and-seek was never much fun. “Hans!” he’s crying, “Hans!” Unspoken, I don’t care you’re a queer, you’re my son, you’re my son first and always, oh, my son, come here!

With all their shrieking glee the children ignore the panic of the parent; the windows are dolls’ eyes, glassy and blind. No one cares what’s behind; they watch as their doll-sisters and brothers get swept up and swallowed. Every mind is made of sweetness sawdust, and behind every door is a tea party with people-china. Drink ‘em down ‘til till their eyes are saucer-round, their breasts and bums inverted tea cups, with skin as still as porcelain. Pass them ‘round to munch through the apples of their hearts, and then the serpent comes.

Too quiet, the boy Hans sits and he stares, end of the line of unseeing things: porcelain torsos, dressed up in lace, and a white-china carcass, trussed up for supper, pretty things all in a row. The boy’s eyes flash; his lashes are long and not painted on, and he also bends at the knee: fight and gnash, slug and thrash. He has man’s hands: big, capable, strong, and he doesn’t like lace, or ribbons and ringlets in his silky soft hair. Doesn’t like to be groomed, but Daddy holds him down with bigger man’s hands, and forces the chin up between his legs, back of his head down in his lap. Up comes the long silver knife. Water in the basin, gas-light off the blade, gentle, careful cuts—the boy, struggling, gets shaved. Not a scratch. Daddy washes him up and beats him blue, then black.

Out on the street, the only grown-up left still calls for his son; but indoors is the playground and graveyard. Daddy is only a boy; he pets a cat, then yanks its tail; he’ll never be more than that. Later in life, he’ll learn to play nice: if they holler, let them go; if they love you—let them go. He’ll still be just a child, he only thinks he can leave them alone. Instead he’ll secretly dream that they’ll come home, misery and mistrust behind them. He somehow hopes if he won’t hurt them, they’ll come to no harm; the strays will still curl up in his arms.

Lengths he puts between himself and others, length of his life as an unwanted son, length of his dick and its twisted desire, in the center, he will stand alone. No living thing will reach out to touch you, Daddy, your old exposed roots, gnarled and white; your dead listing branches, they break. Then the cradle will fall, and down will come—

Judgment—and a knife—This is how I love you—God, baby, this is how much I love you—

Cradle and all, right into—

Another family. Your young, powder-white son will be a line on someone else’s tree, perfect, clean-cut disconnect from your old dead self. He will grow old, paralleling another father, his strong, nearly-man’s arms embracing a body that isn’t yours—never yours; he’ll never be. You’re too twisted up; your mother is your lover and your children are your rivals; your sister was your Mary, and you were Gabriel telling a virgin she was to be raped by God. Then you did it yourself, and she never said, “Here I am, your servant, Father,” but died instead.

Fastly tied and tight, the knots will clench inside you, writhing angry cats’ tails. When a stray comes back to haunt you, you’ll hate him for the mirror he is, the reflection you can’t see but know is there—that boy who was never good enough—the one a father is calling for now—that part of you you lost and will get back—the one fighting you now, struggling as you thrust his head between your legs once more, this time facing you, for the release that still won’t come with come—you were always wound too tight—

“Defy me now, you won’t. Not as long as I live.”

“What she said. Except for the living part.”

“It’s a son I wished for. A man. Instead God gave me you! A terrible disappointment.”

“Drusilla—”

“I fear for you, lad.”

“If you don’t shut your—”

“Daddy’s not finished talking.”



Everything stops.



“You have to believe that there are people who loved you.”

“He never said that. My—he never—”

“I don’t think she’s talking about you. Maybe she’s talking to him.”

“She’s talking to me.”

“He wanted to give you everything. He wanted to take back the mistakes, help you start over.”

“Who? Father? Listen. Listen—there’s only one thing that ever changes anything, and that’s death. Everything else is just a lie.”

“Vater unser, der Du bist im Himmel. Geheiliget werde Dein Name—”

“Hear me, boy? You can’t be saved by a lie. You can’t be saved at all!”

“He really does love you.”

“Love? This isn’t the work of love.”

“What are you going to do about it?”

“Prove it.”

Hush little baby; he still has the razor—

Shhh.

Forget forget forget—the stars forget; time forgets; faces unknown forget. Only one will remember.

Shhh . . . Forget.

“I told you his defeat of you would last life times.”

“I don’t know what you mean.”

“You never learn, do you, my dear boy? Death still doesn’t change anything. It all boils down to fathers and sons for you.”

“And it doesn’t for you?”

“Don’t be ridiculous. This was about you. You acted out of passion. Your own.”

“Didn’t like the effect he had on Dru. Last thing I need is my girl getting lovey over some young thinks-he’s-a-man who’s mine.”

“Darling boy. Still young. Still so very young. You can take what you want. Have what you want. But nothing is yours.”

No one ever will be.

“Daddy, I’m hungry.”

Back down the Reeperbahn—remember, lift your skirts, ladies. The cobblestones, they’re infants’ heads.

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 06:25 am (UTC)(link)
That was...something. Something damn good, actually. Damn.

Damn.

Maybe I'll have better words later? Meantime, begging to archive on StA.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
It's something, but I still don't know what!

Thank you, and yes, I'd love to have it archived. That's such an honor.

[identity profile] stultiloquentia.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
Holy cow. I'm running off to pimp this, and then I'm coming back to try to talk about it. *gulp*
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you, and thanks again for the pimp!

I don't know, it might be untalkaboutable; it was one of those things I couldn't explain to myself, and that always worries me terribly.

[identity profile] frimfram.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Hot damn! That was amazing!
I am going to read it some more times.

Dru’s just being . . . oh, Biblical.
The nursery-rhyme rhythms were creepy and compelling, like a cart rolling too fast over the cobbled streets - think it's going to give me nightmares! Wonderful.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
like a cart rolling too fast over the cobbled streets

What a cool image! In Dutch, the word "cobblestone" actually means "baby's head". /dorkdom

Thanks, and sorry about the nightmares. Unless you get a kick outta that kinda thing.

[identity profile] chrisleeoctaves.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
This was surprisingly (given how dense and twisty the language) visual. I felt as if I was in the middle of this very surreal nightmare filled with creepy and malevolent images (must have been the fragments of nursery rhymes).

Once again, your writing shows an amazing maturity...you're not afraid to take chances, you avoid cliches and have produced another piece filled with stunning language and hidden meaning.

Wonderful.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
you're not afraid to take chances

I was scared out of my gourd. Just writing it scared me, because I didn't think I could ever reproduce the idea in my head. But I ended up rather pleased with it.

Anyway, thanks. I'm glad it was visual for you. I started with the idea of Dru narrating something, wondering what that would be like, and I worried because it wasn't as if she'd stop to tell you what things looked like, or what was going on. Glad it seemed to work for you. Thanks again--you know how much I really respect your comments.

loved it

(Anonymous) 2005-11-15 02:58 pm (UTC)(link)
That was great the way! The way everything fit together!
Should be more of that on every Angel site!
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Re: loved it

[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you, whoever you are!

[identity profile] a2zmom.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Each time I read it, I like it more. A poetic nightmare.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks. I changed it some from what you last saw--some of the parts near the end didn't sit right with me. I feel much better about it now. And thanks for reading it so many times!

[identity profile] semby.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Blown away. You have an amazing way with language. This kept me creeped out and fascinated!
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! Dru herself keeps me creeped out and fascinated, so that's what I was going for. Glad you liked it.

[identity profile] lostakasha.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow.

Wow.

Wow.

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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks.

Thanks.

Thanks. :o)
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[personal profile] lynnenne 2005-11-15 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I love the way you tie in Connor's future with Drusilla's visions. Dru sees everything and knows everything, and it's fascinating to watch how her insight illuminates the past. But the line that struck me the most was this:

Down from the docks, salty and raw, they’ll ram in his port; the world is nothing but meat. Take yours tonight, so you can buy some tomorrow: mutton and scraps for the family, children.

Whoa. Such a bleak commentary on the world, yet so (sadly) true, even today. Your description of the poverty and despair of 19th century Hamburg is a perfect mirror for Drusilla's own despair over her family's future. Lovely work.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Dru sees everything and knows everything,

I think so too. The thing is, I'm not sure she exactly knows what she knows, or exactly cares. The knowledge is just . . . there for her, and she doesn't try to figure it out or use it or change what may happen.

Glad you liked that line. Part of it is that unlike the upper classes of the time, people like Darla and Dru would see the humanity of the poor, understand them as people, instead of dismissing them as others would--and that makes them glory in their despair all the more.

Thank you. Your comments mean a lot to me, because hey. Goddess of my fic world ;o)

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Using, and sending you, Strewelpeter icon(s) in honour of your story.
Very creepy. Warmed the cockles of my heart.

Hope this darned lj-cut works - don't want to clog up your modem - delete this if it's not okay...

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another shockhead Peter fan!

I own the book in miniature, here's a pic. It's leather bound, hand colored and under an inch in height.

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[identity profile] redbrickrose.livejournal.com 2005-11-15 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. Just wow.

That was dark and haunting and very poignant, actually, in the way the past and the present run together and blur, for Drusilla at least. Creepy, but clever and wonderfully written.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-11-16 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
the way the past and the present run together and blur

Glad it worked for you. It was driving me crazy to layer one time over another, because I think very ...well, consecutively, but Dru definitely doesn't.

Thanks!

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Wow. That's incredible.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-11-16 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks!

[identity profile] stultiloquentia.livejournal.com 2005-11-16 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
I'm back.

mutton and scraps for the family, children.
*shudder* Nice punctuation.

there’s more of this story down the throat of this road.
This whole paragraph -- wow. And then the whole vagina dentata thing happening a few paragraphs down. A word is an idea is a story is a child, spoken, swallowed, spit out, birthed. Mouth, fangs, blood, womb. Jeesh, your weave is dense.

That ragged red portal into the Quor'toth is now looking suspiciously ... orifice-like. Dress the boy in strange clothes and rape him. (The legal definition of rape, in some states, is simply "penetration." Dick optional. Angel's dagger in Home, coupled with the mind rape? Yeah.) Penetration. It's what vampires do. Round we go again.

The child of the vampire prostitute was born in an alley. Of course. Round and round.

I'm still reeling.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-11-16 08:22 am (UTC)(link)
I . . . you . . . you rock. My world. *hugs you madly*

*doesn't let you go*

Jeesh, your weave is dense.

There were some other themes/concepts/etc I wanted to throw in there, but it's my secret belief that only Pynchon could pull it off. Besides, if I'd've know what "vagina dentata" was when I was writing this, I'd've gone pyscho. (I do now. I had to look it up. Yeah, I kind of don't know what I'm doing most of the time.)

That ragged red portal into the Quor'toth is now looking suspiciously ... orifice-like. Dress the boy in strange clothes and rape him.

You=genius. There were things I wanted to get to with the last third of this fic, about Angel and Connor, but then I started thinking about Spike and confused myself up the whazoo. It would have been nice to expand on this a little more. Also:

Angel's dagger in Home-->Penetration

You=genius^2. I didn't think of it that way.

I'm still reeling.

I'm glad. I seriously believe Dru could hold it all in her mind at once, which made this seriously difficult to write, and you don't know how awesome it is to have someone appreciate what I was trying to do with it as you have.

*still hasn't let you go*

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[identity profile] cornerofmadness.livejournal.com 2005-11-17 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
I just loved the whole dark imagry of this and Dru's chaotic voice so perfectly captured as she foresees the coming of Connor and the whole tangled skein of all their lives. And cobblestones as infant's heads....that sounds so familiar to me but I'm not sure why
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-11-17 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I had a Dutch friend tell me once that the Dutch word for "cobblestone" actually literally means "baby's head." What creepy is that European cobbles do, kinda, in a sick way, look like that.

I'm glad you liked it. And I love your icon!

[identity profile] crazydiamondsue.livejournal.com 2005-11-19 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
he’ll butt against your womb and grow, grow. A man inside you becomes a son becomes a man, and expanding, he’ll bump against your heart and thump it

Someday you will teach me of this lyrical majestic. Yes. Cobblestones are infant's heads. *happy sigh* You make fan fic feel like it takes actual talent, to which I say...yay!
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-11-19 07:35 am (UTC)(link)
Well, good fanfic takes talent*, so thank you. I'm very flattered that you liked it.

*or lots and lots p0rn.

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[identity profile] lillianmorgan.livejournal.com 2005-11-19 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. Came here via a rec from [livejournal.com profile] frimfram and wow. That was so well done – I don’t think I’ve read anything so lyrical, getting right into the voice of Drusilla, using snippets of nursery rhymes, poems and religious verse so effectively. That was extraordinary.
There’s really so much to like but what specifically got to me was all her predictions of Connor, particularly as it was not so long after her turning.
As your water rushes out, love rushes in, a give-and-take you’ve never known, because coming together is something you never ever do.
Her understanding of how Darla will be both destroyed and restored at the same time is wonderful.
the windows are dolls’ eyes, glassy and blind.
I love that it’s so simple, yet completely on the mark of what Drusilla would say.
I loved very much Darla’s final words to Angelus – reminding him of his daddy issues and planting the words that he will repeat to William.
I dunno if you intended this, but it struck me that because Drusilla is still quite young here and perhaps without the distraction of William, you could sort of imagine these thoughts might go wizzing around her head all the time, whereas later on she might have learned to control herself a bit more? I’m not sure but it sure worked well.
Do you mind if I friend you? I’d love to keep up with what you’re writing.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-11-19 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much for your thoughtful comments.

I did wonder if it was unrealistic to think that Drusilla could have foreseen Connor this early, especially since she never mentions him in canon. But frankly, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to assume Dru knows and sees everything--she's just that crazy. Now, whether William actually helped to "settle" her thoughts--that's a really interesting theory. I definitely had to set this before William--because I cannot, as much as I'd like to--write Spike (at least, not yet). I also wanted the boy they find in the Reeperbahn to kind of work as a catalyst for Dru's visions, suggesting that her understanding of what will happen wouldn't be quite as clairvoyant without the boy. That is, the boy is a replacement for Connor, but Spike is only a parallel for Connor, so Spike does not act as the same kind of catalyst.

But I do think Spike would open up a whole new world of visions for Dru, rather than helping her control them. I would love to do a piece like this set during "Destiny," in which Dru parallels Angelus and William both wanting to possess her as Angel and Spike both loving Buffy (with an echo of Angel and Connor both loving Cordy, because poor poor father of Oedipus; Angel's son-figure always mack on his love interests ;o)

Hee, sorry for rambling, and thanks again for your comments. I'm really glad you liked it, and of course I don't mind; I'm friending you back!
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[identity profile] lmbossy.livejournal.com 2005-11-28 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
this is ... *wow*
the style was so fitting for Drusilla ... it starts out seeming bizarre to read, but I quickly got into the rhythm of it (for want of a better phase), and the interspersed bits of future dialog were well chosen ... it's definitely something I need to read again

When a stray comes back to haunt you, you’ll hate him for the mirror he is, the reflection you can’t see but know is there
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-11-29 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
I was definitely worried that it was a littly *too* bizarre, so I'm glad it was easy to get used to. And I'm pleased also you liked the future dialogue--I had a really hard time choosing what to use when it got to the Angel+Connor and Liam+his father parts at the end. Thanks so much for letting me know you liked it!

[identity profile] curiouswombat.livejournal.com 2005-12-07 12:52 pm (UTC)(link)
That is stunning in it's imagery, and the way threads mix and mingle to form a tapestry of chaos is wonderful.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-12-07 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you. I'm used to writing a lot more straight-forwardly, so I'm glad the...er, chaos aspect worked for you.

[identity profile] m-phoenix.livejournal.com 2005-12-13 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
That was completely unlike any other fic, or any other thing I've ever read. You really do have an incredible way with words. Hypnotic, compelling, creepy as hell, disturbing in a skin crawling, guilt inducing way, and terribly sad. loved the interweaving of snatches of dialogue and nursery rhymes, the flashes of cryptic past and future. Your take on Dru's mind is perfectly Dru, and her very personal view of the world and Angelus and Darla is wonderfully conveyed. I need to read this again.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-12-13 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! It's different than anything I've tried before, so I'm really glad you liked it. I was afraid it'd end up just confusing!

And I just wanted to let you know I have your fic "Break" on my list of things to read. I don't have a lot of time right now, especially time in which I'm relaxed enough to enjoy a good fic, but I'm really looking forward to reading it. And don't ever hesitate to self-pimp more, because I will get to it eventually ;o)

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[identity profile] kseenaa.livejournal.com 2005-12-20 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
Wow.... Just.... Wow.... This was reced at [livejournal.com profile] buffyversetop5... And I am very glad I came here to read it. So Dru... So wonderfully Dru...
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-12-20 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! You know, [livejournal.com profile] frimfram recced it as something scary, but what I think is scary is that I didn't even really think it was disturbing until I had to write the warnings to post it. Then I realized what a freaky place my mind had been in and. . . I was freaked!

Anyway, glad you liked it, and glad you let me know.

[identity profile] deadsoul820.livejournal.com 2005-12-21 09:45 am (UTC)(link)
Incredibly, indescribably, just cool!
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-12-23 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you! This was a freaky fic, so I'm glad to know you liked it.

[identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com 2005-12-28 10:23 am (UTC)(link)
Loved this so much.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2005-12-29 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you!
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he waits to be hips to fill another man’s hands

[personal profile] my_daroga 2006-03-01 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, nice. Once again, very dense. The kind of thing I recognize myself as liking, but perhaps not enjoying quite as much as a good meaty chunk of PLOT. But nevertheless, artfully done. I love the way you've chopped up your references and rhymes; the tangled expectation on behalf of the reader. There are more examples of this, but here's one:
The world is your cunt is an alley, rainy and dark; his dick was his -and-take is your stake; your child is your give-and- your final climax.
The way "give and take", introduced earlier, is repeated but garbled.

Especially liked flow of:
Mummy liked you when you ran, and Daddy liked you when you fought—now Mummy wants to fuck you, and Daddy wants to watch. Home again home again, jiggety jig. You were a little fishy, but now you are big.

I will have to read this over, sometime. It is difficult for me to really love imagery--I'm much more of a dialogue/character person (as I secretly suspect most of us are). But it's lovely to have to change one's pace at times, and the insertion of dialogue here was a nice break up as well.

But like others have said, I don't know what it is, exactly. Not that I need to.
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Re: he waits to be hips to fill another man’s hands

[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-03-01 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'm tickled you read it! Thanks!

The kind of thing I recognize myself as liking, but perhaps not enjoying quite as much as a good meaty chunk of PLOT.

The funny thing is, me too. Well actually...it's difficult to describe. Half my brain eats stuff like this up--stuff that's all dense and metaphoric and imagetastic and whatever. I really do enjoy it all on an intellectual level. The other half prefers plot and character and dialogue, which can be enjoyed on both an intellectual level and a ... relaxation/escapist/fun level.

As for what you say about imagery vs dialogue/character...I was going to say "me too" again, but again, part of me can get consumed by imagery a lot more easily than by characters. For instance, most commercials are more powerful to me than most stories; because commercials are often a concentrated collection of images. They're images designed to manipulate your emotions, but so are stories, and the images tend to touch me more easy. Poetry on the other hand, which I think is all about imagery over character, is hit and miss with me. So, I dunno, and I'm rambling again.

The way "give and take", introduced earlier, is repeated but garbled.

I'm so glad you pointed that out. I was very proud of that sentence, but I wasn't sure it'd make sense to anyone else. It was so brilliant in my head, but I fear my head isn't always coherent.

I'm glad this worked as a change of pace for you, anyway. A couple of these fics, like this and that 5 Things fic and Blood Types, are a really big departure for me, too, and I love love love to see what people think. Thanks so much.

[identity profile] lokapala.livejournal.com 2007-03-12 11:09 am (UTC)(link)
This is stunning. The rhythm, the nursery rhymes quality, the haunting pictures of Reeperbahn and especially the all-knowing without comprehending (didn't River say something like that about herself, btw, now that I wrote that?) Drusilla's POV.
I love your experiments with POV, like in Conceit(s), and this is especially powerful.

Who? Father? Listen. Listen—there’s only one thing that ever changes anything, and that’s death. Everything else is just a lie

And this moment - makes me go 'Yes, of course!' - it is such an Angel(us) attitude, those words, and it's amazing that I've never seen this connection made before.

Again, I say, this is an amazing story. Thank you.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2007-03-12 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much! It's so wonderful to hear people like this and stuff like Conceit(s)...they're not exactly straightforward fiction!

didn't River say something like that about herself

I can't remember. But it sounds like her ;o)

it is such an Angel(us) attitude, those words,

Yeah, Connor's issues had some definite parallels to Angel's own. So that when Connor's lost everything, I think he could sound a lot like Angelus.

Thanks so much for your lovely comments. You really made my day.

[identity profile] ubiquirk.livejournal.com 2009-02-25 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
I can't believe I only found this recently, by my god, I'm glad I did. This is amazing. The circuitous symbolism of the language only adds to the creeping, growing feeling of how disassociated Darla and Angelus are from the horrors they do.

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