Smallville/SPN Questions

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So, I don't normally watch these shows, but people on my flist talk about them, and for once I was free on a Thursday evening, so I thought, hell, why not. So I watched them, but because I don't know all the history and stuff, I had a couple questions about them.


So . . . Lex was gay with a love/hate complex ever since he was a wee little thing?

and


Is the theme of this show always incestuous brothers?

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[luminosity]

Is the theme of this show always incestuous brothers?

ummm..what makes you say that? The inordinate amount of touching? The sympatico? The love with legs? What? I can't imagine...

[imnotacommittee.livejournal.com]

So . . . Lex was gay with a love/hate complex ever since he was a wee little thing?

I guess so. He has some serious Daddy issues, and the episodes that dealt with his childhood focused mainly on his mother and brothers. One is dead (mother killed him and Lex took the fall) and the other one... I'm not sure what happened to him.

And there was a rather large contingent for Clark/Lex slash from the first couple of seasons when they were friends. Now, I don't think it's as ardent.

[regala-electra.livejournal.com]

Incestuous brothers with occasional forays into sex with chicks.

So to answer your question, yes.

But did you see how pretty they are? (Not the Good&Bad Twins, the hot Winchesters I mean.)

[a2zmom.livejournal.com]

yes and yes again.

I haven't seen this week's SPN yet, so I don't know if it's more incestuous than usual, but as far as SV, Lex has many issues, not limited to:

his father

his dead mother and his father's hand in that

his dead brother

an obsessive need to know the truth

friends and whether said friends can be trusted

power

Gay sex is actually the least of Lex's problems.

Drive by opinion!

[samsom.livejournal.com]

Lex was once described by a writer whose fic I love as 'a beautiful, fucked up man' - more issues than the National Enquirer and People combined, including but not limited to his ongoing love/hate/obsession with Clark Kent (Lex: Ask me about my Chamber of Clark Kent - aka CoCK). Also trust issues, daddy issues, dead mother and baby brother issues, and the stigma of being young and rich. Also, there's Lucas Luthor, his younger half brother, who as a baby, Lionel *gave away* and then used like a tissue to rein Lex in years later. Lionel isn't called the Magnificent Bastard for nothin' but he's got a serious weak spot for Martha Kent.

Seriously, the plot holes on this show were enormous, but Lex and CLex kept me coming back for three seasons. I finally was driven away for *good* by the Lana Show, starring Lana!Sue (imo, ymmv). Damned shame, that. I shouldn't let one character ruin it for me, but dear God, it was just too much after a while.

[romanyg.livejournal.com]

My Tom Welling sticks his tongue out at you for calling him a yeti. Plus, omg, tongue!

I have an icon of his *hand* too. Because, eeeeee! Yes, I really am that sad, why do you ask?

This is why, when I fic SV, I take Lex and all his issues and embrace them, go all body-snatcher with him as I drive him around the block. I live his issues, obsessions, and then he gets to fuck Clark.

Of course, it helps that I find Lex attractive too so it's not just simple wish-fulfillment. I think.

I tried explaining this at Writercon, where I hung out with the Angel people way more than the Spike people. I almost always write Spike, but really, it's All About Angel.

I am so weird.

No, Smallville will never, ever be the show that any of the Joss shows are. BSG kicks Smallville's *ass* in just about everything, except the gay. But there is something compelling about the myth of it, an underlying, sinister complexity that is hard to see within the rather simple narrative. It just *sucked* me in *hard*. It goes beyond actor!lust--which um, I almost never get *this* bad, really!--into really deep metatasticness. Seriously. Would I lie?

Um, that really doesn't explain much, does it? *g*