Smallville/SPN Questions

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So, I don't normally watch these shows, but people on my flist talk about them, and for once I was free on a Thursday evening, so I thought, hell, why not. So I watched them, but because I don't know all the history and stuff, I had a couple questions about them.


So . . . Lex was gay with a love/hate complex ever since he was a wee little thing?

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Is the theme of this show always incestuous brothers?

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[tkp.livejournal.com]

I am the opposite of wee. Very tall. You and me, we could rpg TW and MR, DB and JM. Or TW and JM, which was funnier. Tiny Jim.

Oh, of course you do a great job. That is what you do!

I feel like I understand Angel's motivations a lot better than I do Spike's. I don't know if that is me being presumptuous, or something, as far as Angel goes. But anyway, I do find Spike's cadence, as you call it, easier to *write*.

How Duncan, Lex's school friend, is really a proto-Clark, and his failure in that relationship, the disastrousness of it, reflects Lex's relationship with Clark.

Oh, yeah, that's what I meant by Lex having had this love/hate thing going on with his counterparts. Well, I also meant the gay, but yeah. I didn't know Lex hit Clark with a car; that's interesting.

indicates how he will be willing to splay Superman out on a lab table in the future

This is what I meant. I worded it badly. What I meant is that you can add a level of complexity to SV because there's already the existing Superman myth, which exists in so many different incarnations. SV can work that in (almost like writing fanfic, in a way), and fans can work that in, and it adds a layer to the show.

I did read Femme's Fanmix cross-over Faith/Dean fic--I recommend it even if you've never watched SPN. And this makes me take back the sadness trophy. YES.

[romanyg.livejournal.com]

What I meant is that you can add a level of complexity to SV because there's already the existing Superman myth, which exists in so many different incarnations. SV can work that in (almost like writing fanfic, in a way), and fans can work that in, and it adds a layer to the show.

Ah, I see. Yes, I guess SV is does build on that mythic layer, authorized fanfic. But so much media relies on allusions, their audience's familiarity with other works, that I think this clamboring to be omg!so original and not reference *anything* flattens and hurts art more than layering ever could.

But that's kinda tangential.

I know that I should read Femme's crossover. We talked about it in Nashville while she was a bit nauseated in my car. *g* She has a wonderful interpretation of Faith, and I should read it just for that.

*battles for trophy*

[tkp.livejournal.com]

Well, yeah. I was not trying to belittle SV--think that brings a lot to the verse.

Though if I wanted to the advocate of the devil (I do not have an apostrophe that is why I am talking so) I could point out BSG only references Greek gods and the signs of the Zodiac and it does alright. However I do not want to be an advocate of the devil. I do want my damn apostrophe, though.

I forgot how you were at Winchestercon and have not even seen SPN. I totally concede.

[romanyg.livejournal.com]

I do not have an apostrophe that is why I am talking so

Ah, you mean the punctuation apostrophe as opposed to the rhetorical one. I got confused for a minute. *g* Do you mean that key is no longer functional?

I'd argue that BSG references *way* more than Greek mythology. Considering the aftermath of Vichy France and what happened to supposed collaborators--have you seen pictures of what they did to the women? OMG!--the last episode held a lot more chill and terror for me because of that knowledge, how I could relate the episode to our own history, what atrocities human beings are capable of in the name of "justice".

I forgot how you were at Winchestercon and have not even seen SPN. I totally concede.

Hee! I am a puffy bag of fandom!

[tkp.livejournal.com]

periodically my browser has been knocking out the use of my apostrophe, my slash, my back and forth arrows, and my cut and paste. No idea what the deal with it is.

Well, I agree with what you say about BSG's references. I just meant that SV is *directly* based on something like a canon.

That's an awesome icon.

[romanyg.livejournal.com]

That's an awesome icon.

I have to credit _eb for the awesomeness.