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Smallville/SPN Questions
So, I don't normally watch these shows, but people on my flist talk about them, and for once I was free on a Thursday evening, so I thought, hell, why not. So I watched them, but because I don't know all the history and stuff, I had a couple questions about them.
So . . . Lex was gay with a love/hate complex ever since he was a wee little thing?
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Is the theme of this show always incestuous brothers?
So . . . Lex was gay with a love/hate complex ever since he was a wee little thing?
and
Is the theme of this show always incestuous brothers?
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And you *totally* cheated with the JM tongue. He's all blowed up and stuff.
Oh, and I meant that I write Lex POV but it's all about Clark. Lex is surprisingly accessible, his cadence and crazycakeness is easy to fall into. I'm not saying that I do a *great* job, but it's adequate. I've found SV fandom very welcoming with what I've done so far. They're enthusiastically seductive that way. *g*
And I find that's the case with Spike too as far as cadence and motivation. I can understand his rhythm whereas Angel is so much more difficult. Angel has a deep inner life. And when I do write from his POV there's a lot more poetry and dream sequences and such and is not really fit for public consumption.
There is a certain complexity that fandom brings to SV, but they can oversimplify the Clark/Lex relationship too, which personally makes me all GAH! and not in a good way. For instance, there was a *ton* of symbolism in this week's ep. How Duncan, Lex's school friend, is really a proto-Clark, and his failure in that relationship, the disastrousness of it, reflects Lex's relationship with Clark. It's not coincidence that Duncan was hit by a car, presumed dead, and then Lex hit Clark with his car years later. Clark represented a second chance for Lex. But Lex is essentially the same person in so many ways and chooses the way of power, swallows hurt down.
Lex wanting the lab notes for his friend, reducing him to an experiment, indicates how he will be willing to splay Superman out on a lab table in the future. It's all about the journey, and is *way* more than the gay.
I haven't read Femme's fic yet either because I haven't seen SPN. I do have the 1st season on DVD but haven't taken it out of it's wrapper yet. *wins sad person contest, WINS!*
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Oh, of course you do a great job. That is what you do!
I feel like I understand Angel's motivations a lot better than I do Spike's. I don't know if that is me being presumptuous, or something, as far as Angel goes. But anyway, I do find Spike's cadence, as you call it, easier to *write*.
How Duncan, Lex's school friend, is really a proto-Clark, and his failure in that relationship, the disastrousness of it, reflects Lex's relationship with Clark.
Oh, yeah, that's what I meant by Lex having had this love/hate thing going on with his counterparts. Well, I also meant the gay, but yeah. I didn't know Lex hit Clark with a car; that's interesting.
indicates how he will be willing to splay Superman out on a lab table in the future
This is what I meant. I worded it badly. What I meant is that you can add a level of complexity to SV because there's already the existing Superman myth, which exists in so many different incarnations. SV can work that in (almost like writing fanfic, in a way), and fans can work that in, and it adds a layer to the show.
I did read Femme's Fanmix cross-over Faith/Dean fic--I recommend it even if you've never watched SPN. And this makes me take back the sadness trophy. YES.
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Ah, I see. Yes, I guess SV is does build on that mythic layer, authorized fanfic. But so much media relies on allusions, their audience's familiarity with other works, that I think this clamboring to be omg!so original and not reference *anything* flattens and hurts art more than layering ever could.
But that's kinda tangential.
I know that I should read Femme's crossover. We talked about it in Nashville while she was a bit nauseated in my car. *g* She has a wonderful interpretation of Faith, and I should read it just for that.
*battles for trophy*
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Though if I wanted to the advocate of the devil (I do not have an apostrophe that is why I am talking so) I could point out BSG only references Greek gods and the signs of the Zodiac and it does alright. However I do not want to be an advocate of the devil. I do want my damn apostrophe, though.
I forgot how you were at Winchestercon and have not even seen SPN. I totally concede.
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Ah, you mean the punctuation apostrophe as opposed to the rhetorical one. I got confused for a minute. *g* Do you mean that key is no longer functional?
I'd argue that BSG references *way* more than Greek mythology. Considering the aftermath of Vichy France and what happened to supposed collaborators--have you seen pictures of what they did to the women? OMG!--the last episode held a lot more chill and terror for me because of that knowledge, how I could relate the episode to our own history, what atrocities human beings are capable of in the name of "justice".
I forgot how you were at Winchestercon and have not even seen SPN. I totally concede.
Hee! I am a puffy bag of fandom!
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Well, I agree with what you say about BSG's references. I just meant that SV is *directly* based on something like a canon.
That's an awesome icon.
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