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It's Lion Turtles all the way down ([personal profile] lettered) wrote2006-05-02 11:13 am
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This Just In! Rant! Fic! Hookers!

I know you'll never believe my amazing news! I didn't when I first heard about it! But it's all true!



Buffy doesn't think she's fat. Buffy doesn't think she's ugly. In fact, she thinks she's pretty damn PRETTY.

Buffy is not a hooker.

Buffy has boobs. Nice boobs. She does not worry about the size of her rack. Ever. Sometimes she even looks down at them and thinks, "wow, perky!"

Angel is also not a hooker.

Angel has sex with women occasionally. Lots of times he likes it. Lots of times he doesn't EVER say, "ugh, vaginas, gross."

Spike is also not a hooker. He is also not a drug addict. By the way, Buffy is not a drug addict. And Angel is NOT in a gang.

Fred exists!

Gunn is not just a fuck buddy.

Angel is not a pimp. You may think with that velvet jacket--but you'd be wrong.

Buffy does not dress like a skanky ho just for the fun of dressing like a skanky ho.

Dru is not sane. She's really really not. She does not live in a white house with a picket fence and file for divorce from Spike because he had sex with Buffy.

Dru is also not a secretary at a law firm.

Gunn does understand and can make use of proper grammar.

Buffy does not need a translator for Spike. She understands the gist of bint and bloody and pillock. She may get uptight about the word "shirty" but she does not feel the need to carry a slang dictionary to decipher him. Spike is English. Sort of. Get over it.

Lindsey is not an innocent.

Lorne is not gay.

Dawn won't go away just because you hate her. Dawn isn't actually a hooker either. Dawn wouldn't even dance in a strip club, not even if the pay was really great.

Buffy is funny. Xander is funny. Spike's funny too. Believe it or not, Angel's funny too. In fact, find me a person in Jossverse who is not occasionally funny, and I will find you a person who has way too much time on their hands finding out the name of that one guy on that one ep who never cracked a joke. Unless you pick Glory because we all know the writers tried really hard but she really wasn't funny. She really wasn't.

Sometimes, Giles doesn't drink tea. Or clean his glasses.

Wesley exists!

Cordelia is not heartless. Cordelia is not a hooker, either. Not even a high pay one.

Spike uses product, too.

Buffy's not a natural blond. Neither is Cordelia. Neither is Spike.

Andrew isn't innocent either. Faith isn't innocent either. I actually don't know about the hooker part though. Or even the drug addict part. I'm pretty sure she isn't in one of those girl gangs, though. Andrew might be, though.

Riley isn't a rapist.

Riley loves Buffy. Angel loves Buffy. Giles loves Buffy. Xander loves Buffy. And not just in the he wants to feel her up way, though there is that.

Buffy loves Xander. Buffy would in fact die for Xander.

Buffy is intelligent.

Xander doesn't only reference Star Wars.

BtVS S2 Angel would never coerce S2 Buffy into having sex with him.

Buffy would never call Spike "Sir." Or "Master."

Lots of the characters in Jossverse would have lots of wiggins about having sex with more than one person. Doesn't mean you shouldn't write it. Doesn't mean you even have to deal with it when you write it. Just sayin'.

Lots of the characters in Jossverse would have lots of wiggins about having sex with someone of their own sex. Doesn't mean you shouldn't write it. Doesn't mean you even have to deal with it when you write it. Just sayin'.

Tara does not mother everyone in sight. She's actually shy, in case you missed that part.

Willow has speech patterns. In fact, everyone in Jossverse has a distinct way of speaking. No one in Jossverse talks like an eighteenth century novel. Not even when they are in the eighteenth century.

Buffy's father never beat her.

Angelus killed his family. Angelus tortured Drusilla. Angelus tried to make more monsters in his own image. Angelus murdered Jenny Calendar, and liked it. I don't have physical evidence (pity) but I'm telling you right now he got off on it. Angelus has killed more people than you've ever met. Angelus would kill you.

Spike probably would, too.

Buffy actually never ever ever looks shabby or slovenly. Because need I remind you, she's not a drug addict or homeless or an abused child or a victim of some horrible unspeakable crime.

Angel does not worry that his name sounds girly. That much.

Buffy thinks about things besides men. She also thinks about things besides sex. So, actually, does Angel. Yes, folks, even Spike and Xander have thoughts beyond sex, and those thoughts they have are not about bondage fun between sex, and nor are they about getting married and having children and getting a dog. They're actually thoughts about saving the world and PlayStation and table tennis and what am I going to wear tomorrow and I wonder whether those crazy kids on Dawson's Creek will hook up.

Gunn is taller than Angel.

Willow actually moves beyond Oz. Not saying she stops loving him. She does learn to love someone else too.

But everything everyone says about Kennedy is true. She actually probably is a hooker.

[identity profile] canadiangirl-86.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
You're a genius.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks.

Though I feel like everyone could be as smart as us if they chanced to remember the shows they're stealing characters from. No! I'm not jaded and bitter!

[identity profile] ely-jan.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
I am crushing on you so hard right now...seriously...
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
*crushes back*

You're so crunchy!

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[identity profile] lostakasha.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
When you immerse yourself in badfic our lives are the better for it. I heart you, Joy-giver Joy!
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
I know! I should just stay away, but then there is this pull.

I less than three you too!

[identity profile] viciouswishes.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
Gunn is taller than Angel.

Thank you. Every time someone writes otherwise, a little piece of my soul dies.

There was some other good stuff too, like the hair dye and product and also the evil vampire issue. Sometimes I think I'm reading a story where Angelus raises baby bunnies in his spare time (and not just to harass Anya).
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
I meant to put in the actual proof I have that Angel is not in fact a fluffy bunny: at garden stores they sell dried blood to sprinkle on your plants so bunnies won't eat them, because bunnies don't like blood.

After Doyle and before Spike Angel is the shortest guy on the show. But with some people their OTC has to be taller than everyone and their mama. I've read fics in which Spike is taller than Gunn. I mean COME ON! Gunn is freakishly tall!

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[identity profile] aloneinthetown.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
NO WAY!!!!! Angel is so like this guy whose all rich and he's a total asshole but he's so sexy that Buffy doesn't care and has no integrity. Then they'll like get together and fuck all the time, and he talks all dirty and she feels like shit BUT IT'S OKAY because he'll so eventually regret it when he has this weird revelation for no reason that he loves her forever!!!!!!!11111112334forty-two

You know you believe it.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
TOTALLY FORGOT about that aspect of it. It's all true what you say, especially the part where Spike assaults her and Angel kills him and Buffy is all like YAY! MURDER! My murdering hero! And the chief of police is Angel's best friend Wesley who is shorter than Spike but okay with murder and stuff. And then Buffy and Angel have more dirty sex. On the table. In a restaurant, where no one notices.
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[identity profile] makd.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
I can see you've spent a LOT of time thinking about these things. I appreciate your posting them for us. :-)
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it was tough to figure some of these things out. It's difficult to tell, really, that BtVS isn't actually a show that takes place in a bordello. But now that I've done all the work for you guys and come to these really thought provoking conclusions, I had to share my work with everyone. And quell the need to ram it down anyone's throat.
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[personal profile] rahirah 2006-05-03 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
Spike and Angelus would not kill me because I am the violet-eyed sekrit half-vampire/half slayer/half Key mpreg daughter of Dawn, Connor, and um someone else and I would STAKE THEM WITH MY MYSTIC UNICORN HORN! Which would not kill them but make them fall desperately in love with me except I'd kind of rather have Faith and Willow desperately in love with me. Never mind.

[identity profile] kita0610.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
But Willow is an evol bitca who hates men Buffy everybody!

Also, I stole your unicorn.

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[identity profile] semby.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
I'm just going to assume that if in future I ever need a list of fics to avoid, you'll be able to provide.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally could!

tkp is the prophet

[identity profile] i-palimpsest.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 09:21 am (UTC)(link)
Also for at least 3 seasons Buffy dressed REALLY badly in clothes that made her frequently look short and wide. I recently visited season 2 and was shocked and appalled.

Anyway Buffy can't be a drug addict - she's a dealer. It's the only logical explanation for how a uni student owns that many pairs of leather pants :)
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Re: tkp is the prophet

[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
If you're talking about S1-3, I love the way she dressed! Her clothes were absolutely scary, but I thought she looked adorable. And they really accented her curves.

Yeah, it's pretty obvious Buffy's a drug dealer; so obvious I didn't even need to mention it!
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[identity profile] astridv.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 09:38 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, what've you been reading? :OD
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you really want to know?

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[identity profile] timeofchange.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 11:59 am (UTC)(link)
Andrew isn't innocent either. Faith isn't innocent either. I actually don't know about the hooker part though. Or even the drug addict part. I'm pretty sure she isn't in one of those girl gangs, though. Andrew might be, though.

You made me laugh.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
My work is done.
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[identity profile] ladycat777.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahahahahaha. I love you. And yes.

But seriously -- Spike as a prostitute? A lot of fun. And you know he and Dru probably tried it to get dinner and a show ...

But otherwise, so word.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Anyone of them as a prostitute is actually kind of fun. Except, you know, they aren't.

Ha! I like the idea of Spike pretending to be one. Point the way to that fic...

[identity profile] crazydiamondsue.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Buffy is funny. Xander is funny. Spike's funny too. Believe it or not, Angel's funny too. In fact, find me a person in Jossverse who is not occasionally funny, and I will find you a person who has way too much time on their hands finding out the name of that one guy on that one ep who never cracked a joke.

*dances the dance of Heee!*

Word on Glory, but I did laugh out loud at, "The Slayer's a robot? Did anyone else know the Slayer's a robot?"
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I laughed at more than one thing Glory said, but it's all awash in a haze of bad acting and missing the glory (heh) days of the snappy writing for Cordelia, when everything she said was wittier and cut ten times as hard as the god who was oddly like her.
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[personal profile] my_daroga 2006-05-03 03:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Mr. A has a lot to worry about if we are ever in the same state, girl.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Someday!

[identity profile] spuffyduds.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
::loves you forever::
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
*tickles you*
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[personal profile] aea 2006-05-03 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
You are made of long weekends and kittens and kinky sex- all awesome things that are full of awesome.

I'm pretty sure she isn't in one of those girl gangs, though. Andrew might be, though.
lmao. Of course!

Riley loves Buffy. Angel loves Buffy. Giles loves Buffy. Xander loves Buffy. And not just in the he wants to feel her up way, though there is that.

Buffy loves Xander. Buffy would in fact die for Xander.

Buffy is intelligent.

OMG- YES to these.

All of this- wonderful.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee! That's on of the coolest compliments I ever recieved! I want to put it in my profile.

And I like your icon! So many people are replying with very cool icons I've never seen before.

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[identity profile] bashipforever.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
*dies* You rock so much

I might want to have your babies. Well...no because having babies, not that fun but you get the point.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 06:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I would totally have your babies back! In a completely platonic way.

I love that icon.

[identity profile] baffae.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
that was a lot of fun to read but I'm a little worried that you have too much time on your hands. . .
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it took me a long time to figure all that stuff out. I mean, the way he's portrayed, Angel could so totally be a hooker. But through in depth study I actually discerned that he's not.

[identity profile] anelith.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel as though I should be petting your poor sore head, or offering cold compresses for your tired eyes, for surely you have been wading through the Jungle of Bad!Fic...

Were you tempted by some yummy-sounding summaries?
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
No. Well, this is a mass of things I've seen over time. A lot I read before I found lj. And some I read because the summaries sounded the exactly the opposite of yummy, i.e. horrifying and thus morbidly fascinating, like a trainwreck only with more hookers. But this particular font errupted because I read a fic that I'd actually heard was good elsewhere, and ... Buffy was a sex obsessed slut with a really bad self image. And then I kind of imploded.

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[identity profile] jgracio.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)

Fred exists!
Wesley exists!


Really? You sure on this? :)

Also, Xander doesn't wonder if the crazy kids on Dawson's Creek will hook up (he probably thinks about Joey though :) and Spike doesn't wonder what he's going to wear tomorrow. He's too busy thinking about Passion's for that! :)

Bravo!

[identity profile] dlgood.livejournal.com 2006-05-03 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, Spike doesn't wonder what he's going to wear tomorrow because he only has the one outfit.

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[identity profile] ravenwings-7.livejournal.com 2006-05-04 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Buffy doesn't think she's fat
I think that a lot of people saw her skip the dressing that one time during Post Parker Depression and took it as meaning she's had lifelong weight issues.

Spike is also not a hooker.
But don't you wish he was?

Gunn does understand and can make use of proper grammar.
And you just know that he keeps a list of big words to look up later & file for future reference.

Lorne is not gay.
Nor is he straight. He's just Lorne.

In fact, find me a person in Jossverse who is not occasionally funny,
I thought of Cain the werewolf hunter before I even finished reading this sentence. Also, the Annoying One.

Buffy does not dress like a skanky ho just for the fun of dressing like a skanky ho.
Yes she does. ;) If you ignore the fact she doesn't dress like a skanky ho at all (ho maybe, but not skanky. A high class ho).

Spike uses product, too.
No he doesn't. Nope. He only stopped using egg whites was because they smelled gross. He uses heavy-duty hairgel. Or possibly Shellac. Neither of which could possibly be called product. *eg*

Xander doesn't only reference Star Wars.
Also known as the one problem with belonging to a fandom that appeals to non-traditional geeks: Star Wars is the only other geekism they get.

Buffy would never call Spike "Sir." Or "Master."
Yes she would. She'd just be really, really sarcastic about it.

Buffy actually never ever ever looks shabby or slovenly
Except in Beer Bad, but she gets let off the hook for having her first hangover/being a cavegirl.

what am I going to wear tomorrow
Somehow I doubt that's very high on the list of things Spike thinks about...

But everything everyone says about Kennedy is true.
Hey! I love Kennedy. Probably for the same reasons that most others loathe her. She is such a phenomenal bitch.

*sigh* Like I needed an excuse to be a smartass...
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-06 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought of Cain the werewolf hunter before I even finished reading this sentence. Also, the Annoying One.

True. Though the Annoying One gets points for being the butt of a joke.

Or possibly Shellac.

Hahahahahaha!

Also known as the one problem with belonging to a fandom that appeals to non-traditional geeks: Star Wars is the only other geekism they get.

Exactly! I was going to try to say this but then I didn't know how. Though LOTR factors in, too. I'm somewhere in between, I think. I know a few more geekisms than SW but I fail at being a complete geek. Mostly because I have trouble keeping comic books straight.

Yes she would. She'd just be really, really sarcastic about it.

I still can't see that, actually.

Somehow I doubt that's very high on the list of things Spike thinks about...

Well, I don't think Buffy thinks about PlayStation, either.

Hey! I love Kennedy. Probably for the same reasons that most others loathe her. She is such a phenomenal bitch.

Well, I was just kidding around. I don't loathe her (I save that for Joyce). But once I asked in a list of questions, Does anyone love Kennedy? And I kept getting the answer, Someone must, somewhere. And honey, you are it!

*slaps you on the back*
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[identity profile] rainkatt.livejournal.com 2006-05-04 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes, Giles doesn't drink tea. Or clean his glasses.

::kisses you on the mouth::

(I hope you don't mind.)

Love this whole post.

Riley isn't a rapist.

Riley loves Buffy. Angel loves Buffy. Giles loves Buffy. Xander loves Buffy. And not just in the he wants to feel her up way, though there is that.

Buffy loves Xander. Buffy would in fact die for Xander.


::nod nod::
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-04 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Poor Giles. Not only doomed to just a supporting character on Buffy, his part in fanfic is so often, "yeah and everyone did all this stuff, and oh yeah, Giles cleaned his glasses." Makes me sad.

And kissing is okay as long as I don't know you. ;o)

[identity profile] cordelianne.livejournal.com 2006-05-04 09:02 am (UTC)(link)
I love this so much!! It's wonderful. And I love you for this:

Riley loves Buffy. Angel loves Buffy. Giles loves Buffy. Xander loves Buffy. And not just in the he wants to feel her up way, though there is that.

Buffy loves Xander. Buffy would in fact die for Xander.


*nods*
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-04 05:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I love how Buffy loves Xander. It makes me happy.

[identity profile] londonkds.livejournal.com 2006-05-04 12:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Dru is also not a secretary at a law firm.

You know, that one could actually be hilarious as an AtS5 AU. "You must not meet with Mr. Andkou today. The walls whispered it to me."
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-04 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha! She'd make an amusing secretary. But unlike Harmony I don't think they could keep her from running amok and killing people, and I also don't think Angel could ever stand to have her around like that.
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[personal profile] lyr 2006-05-04 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm. I begin to suspect that I missed an awful lot of hooker fic somewhere (and thank all The Powers That Be for that, too).

I love your list; it's not only true, it's damn funny. The only thing I don't whole-heartedly agree with is Buffy's boob-having---though I agree she thinks she has.
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[identity profile] tkp.livejournal.com 2006-05-04 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure what the deal is with hooker fic! The only one I've not seen as a hooker is Giles.

Someone else mentioned the boob-having. The thing is, I've been rewatching S1-3, in which she does have boobs, and nice ones at that. We've been speculating it's a. magic bras and b. before she lost so much weight.

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